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It is going to cost a lot to build a secure border. Wire, crossing points, lots of border patrols etc etc. after all as Scotland won't be in the EU we have to treat it like it was say Turkey!. Then all the scots who live here will have to decide which nationality they want to be. If scottish they will have to apply for visas and residence permits and of course obey all the immigrant regulations.

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davecttr wrote:
It is going to cost a lot to build a secure border. Wire, crossing points, lots of border patrols etc etc. after all as Scotland won't be in the EU we have to treat it like it was say Turkey!. Then all the scots who live here will have to decide which nationality they want to be. If scottish they will have to apply for visas and residence permits and of course obey all the immigrant regulations.
Taking that one stage further there will be a major security issue with the control of the Scottish borders in that if they are not careful it could end up as an easy route into England for terrorists.

So whose navy will be patrolling Scottish waters? Not the Scottish navy because they will not have one - it will be the Royal Navy, at a price.

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I've listened to both sides of the arguement and my conclusion is ............ nobody knows how it will be if Scotland go independent.

It's all at best a guess.

A fair bit of scaremongering on both sides but I would add that if I was Scottish, I would want total home rule, and not be governed by another country, what ever the consequences.

It may also bring England down a peg or two and stop us trying to police the world.
The Uk spend on military is quite horrendous when compared to similar sized countrues.
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barney wrote:
If I was Scottish, I would want total home rule, and not be governed by another country, what ever the consequences.
I don't get this being ruled by another country bit. We have a UK parliament at elections to which all UK citizens have a vote. The Scots have more say in English affairs than vice versa because they have local control over some things, such as health, which the English do not. And I'll say again, as I have before, where did the Chancellor/PM that got us into the present mess come from? Scotland.

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Mervyn and Trish wrote:
I don't get this being ruled by another country bit. We have a UK parliament at elections to which all UK citizens have a vote. The Scots have more say in English affairs than vice versa because they have local control over some things, such as health, which the English do not. And I'll say again, as I have before, where did the Chancellor/PM that got us into the present mess come from? Scotland.
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Silver_Shiney wrote:
Mervyn and Trish wrote:
I don't get this being ruled by another country bit. We have a UK parliament at elections to which all UK citizens have a vote. The Scots have more say in English affairs than vice versa because they have local control over some things, such as health, which the English do not. And I'll say again, as I have before, where did the Chancellor/PM that got us into the present mess come from? Scotland.
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Mervyn and Trish wrote:
I don't get this being ruled by another country bit. We have a UK parliament at elections to which all UK citizens have a vote. The Scots have more say in English affairs than vice versa because they have local control over some things, such as health, which the English do not. And I'll say again, as I have before, where did the Chancellor/PM that got us into the present mess come from? Scotland.
Exactly :clap: :thumbup:

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What have I done? There seems to be an outbreak of agreement here! :clap:


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Mervyn and Trish wrote:
What have I done? There seems to be an outbreak of agreement here! :clap:

We had better soon put a stop to that :crazy: :shock: :?

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Well if someone would like to mention children on cruises, smoking on balconies or sunbed hogging I'm sure it'll kick off!

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The Polls seem to be indicating an ever closer result ... :o
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Mervyn and Trish wrote:
Well if someone would like to mention children on cruises, smoking on balconies or sunbed hogging I'm sure it'll kick off!
You forgot dress codes :roll:
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What has it got to do with the Poles MOB? :lol: Whoops sorry, I read that wrong.

What with the Tories imploding, (as ever!), the Scots knifing Britain in the back, and our pussyfooting PC civil service making error upon compounded error, that's surely plenty to start a good argument on this forum.

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I have to laugh when I hear the SNP claim that only an independent Scottish parliament can adequately represenr their views, because in my view it's the English who have the short straw in this area. Scotland, Wales and N Ireland already have their own devolved govt. but for us English no such benefit.
I just hope that whatever the outcome of the vote there is a major reduction in non English MPs at westminster to reflect the proportion of devalution to the other UK countries.
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towny44 wrote:
I have to laugh when I hear the SNP claim that only an independent Scottish parliament can adequately represenr their views, because in my view it's the English who have the short straw in this area. Scotland, Wales and N Ireland already have their own devolved govt. but for us English no such benefit.
I just hope that whatever the outcome of the vote there is a major reduction in non English MPs at westminster to reflect the proportion of devalution to the other UK countries.

hear, hear!

(now where have I heard that phrase before? :sarcasm: )
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Say the no campaign win by 37 votes then independance is off... for how long?

i reckon about 25 years.

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davecttr wrote:
Say the no campaign win by 37 votes then independance is off... for how long?

i reckon about 25 years.
That'll do for me ... I'll be long gone by then :lol:
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What has it got to do with the Poles MOB? :lol:
Donno, but I'll do some research and let you know.

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Well I suppose Scotland is closer to the North Pole and England is closer to the South Pole. :sarcasm:

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Mervyn and Trish wrote:
Well I suppose Scotland is closer to the North Pole and England is closer to the South Pole. :sarcasm:

Moby, I'm amazed that you didn't know that. :shock: :moresarcasm:
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Silver_Shiney wrote:
Mervyn and Trish wrote:
Well I suppose Scotland is closer to the North Pole and England is closer to the South Pole. :sarcasm:

Moby, I'm amazed that you didn't know that. :shock: :moresarcasm:
Me too but I blame Frank for that :wtf:
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Manoverboard wrote:
Silver_Shiney wrote:
Mervyn and Trish wrote:
Well I suppose Scotland is closer to the North Pole and England is closer to the South Pole. :sarcasm:

Moby, I'm amazed that you didn't know that. :shock: :moresarcasm:
Me too but I blame Frank for that :wtf:

I'd blame Batty, meself - he's not here to answer back....
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Tut! Tut! There was me trying to start a discussion about something provocative, and all you lot can debate is how close we are to the Poles. With the number living in Southampton, I would say a lot closer than you'd think. But then Scotland is nowhere near Southampton either! So we are closer to the poles than they are.

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Frank Manning wrote:
Tut! Tut! There was me trying to start a discussion about something provocative, and all you lot can debate is how close we are to the Poles. With the number living in Southampton, I would say a lot closer than you'd think. But then Scotland is nowhere near Southampton either! So we are closer to the poles than they are.

I am losing it definitely losing it. :crazy:
I am definitely having a senior moment :roll: I read this post and thought what do the Poles have to do with it all - I know there are a lot of Polish people working in this country but ........ :crazy: Time for another cuppa I think to clear my head ;)
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Jan Rosser wrote:
Frank Manning wrote:
Tut! Tut! There was me trying to start a discussion about something provocative, and all you lot can debate is how close we are to the Poles. With the number living in Southampton, I would say a lot closer than you'd think. But then Scotland is nowhere near Southampton either! So we are closer to the poles than they are.

I am losing it definitely losing it. :crazy:
I am definitely having a senior moment :roll: I read this post and thought what do the Poles have to do with it all - I know there are a lot of Polish people working in this country but ........ :crazy: Time for another cuppa I think to clear my head ;)
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