First Class post - a joke that should be ended

[Frank Manning]

Absolutely right Barney! Incidentally having paid £2.50 for next day delivery last Wednesday (UK Mail), it arrived this morning 3 days late. The mail should be part of the country's infrastructure as you say. In the end our governments will have presided over nothing better than a 'fire sale' of our national assets, and you can forget the Great in GB, we will be in hock to a Heinz 57 of other nations' state sponsored companies.

[Mervyn and Trish]

If this country is ever going to be great again we need to drastically reduce the public sector wage bill, otherwise we will never get rid of the massive deficit.

I see where you're going FB, but not sure I entirely follow the logic.

The only way to reduce the public sector wage bill significantly is to reduce public sector services. Yes there may still be a little fat to trim but realistically not very much. Witness the deteriorating state of roads etc. And reducing the wage bill, i.e. the government's outgoings, will only impact on the deficit if they are able to maintain their incomings, i.e. taxes, in order the spend that money on paying down both the current deficit and ultimately the accumulated deficit instead of on wages.

So will we be willing to accept paying the same level of taxes when we are getting less public services and having to pay for what we used to get privately at the same time? Personally I doubt it.

I'm all for saving waste but I don't think it's that simple.

And in the case of the current discussion, the Royal Mail used to be publicly owned. It is now in the private sector and to my mind the service has gone down since that privatisation.

[Dark Knight]

our postie,has just delivered copious amounts of mail

some of it actually wanted

[Mervyn and Trish]

Christmas is about the only time the "actually wanted" outnumbers the junk mail in our house.

Some of the latter I wouldn't even bother to open except that the recycling police require the windows of the window envelopes to be ripped out before we recycle the rest!

[Dark Knight]

we take out anything with our names and address on it for the shredder and then dump all the junk in the recycle bin

[Mervyn and Trish]

Trouble is the shredder uses electricity, so it's not PC and another polar bear dies every time you use it.

[Dark Knight]

rather that than some scrote stealing my identity

[Mervyn and Trish]

Who'd want it?

[Andrea S]

I have do quite a bit of shopping on line and so far it has been delivered at home when stated.

This year I have shopped on line with John Lewis and they gave me a delivery option of numerous local small shops where I could pick the goods up. Boots also give you this option. I have found it very useful to go and pick up without hanging around for a delivery.

[Silver_Shiney]

Absolutely right Barney! Incidentally having paid £2.50 for next day delivery last Wednesday (UK Mail), it arrived this morning 3 days late. The mail should be part of the country's infrastructure as you say. In the end our governments will have presided over nothing better than a 'fire sale' of our national assets, and you can forget the Great in GB, we will be in hock to a Heinz 57 of other nations' state sponsored companies.

Frank, email the tracking number to getintouch@your.royalmail.com and demand an explanation and a refund to the sender.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I have do quite a bit of shopping on line and so far it has been delivered at home when stated.

This year I have shopped on line with John Lewis and they gave me a delivery option of numerous local small shops where I could pick the goods up. Boots also give you this option. I have found it very useful to go and pick up without hanging around for a delivery.

We recently discovered John Lewis service delivering on line purchases (free and next day) to our local Waitrose for collection. Worked perfectly and we'll certainly use it again.

[barney]

Alan & Merv

you've both illustrated my position perfectly

Ref Alan's comment - this was a private carrier company, not Royal Mail
Ref Merv's - collections may work perfectly for you. They may not work so well for older folk, some of whom will be housebound.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Alan & Merv

you've both illustrated my position perfectly

Ref Alan's comment - this was a private carrier company, not Royal Mail
Ref Merv's - collections may work perfectly for you. They may not work so well for older folk, some of whom will be housebound.

Quite right on the second point Barney, but for the moment it works for us.

But on the first, to reiterate the point I made earlier, Royal Mail is now a private carrier company!

[Stephen]

It would be good to be able to write 'return to sender' on the junk mail and then shove it back into the post box. Let Royal Mail see if they can claim back the postage!

[Manoverboard]

Opting out of the various forms of Junk Mail is easy enough to do .....

[Silver_Shiney]

Opting out of the various forms of Junk Mail is easy enough to do .....

True, but why should we have to? I think it's iniquitous that companies are making money selling our details behind our backs and then sending junk that we don't want.

[Stephen]

Opting out of the various forms of Junk Mail is easy enough to do .....

Been there, done that, still get it. You'll never stop it.

[Manoverboard]

Opting out of the various forms of Junk Mail is easy enough to do .....

Been there, done that, still get it. You'll never stop it.

Have you renewed it ...

[Silver_Shiney]

Opting out of the various forms of Junk Mail is easy enough to do .....

Been there, done that, still get it. You'll never stop it.

Have you renewed it ...

Has to be renewed every two years.

YourChoice@dma.org.uk
optout@royalmail.com

[Mervyn and Trish]

It would be good to be able to write 'return to sender' on the junk mail and then shove it back into the post box. Let Royal Mail see if they can claim back the postage!

I did once go through a phase of readdressing each piece of junk to one of the other firms who's send me something, but these days can't be bothered!

We did once register to stop it but haven't renewed, perhaps we should. As I understand it, in any case, that can only stop the specifically addressed stuff, and not the stuff which the postie is given with directions to shove one through every door.

[Manoverboard]

... As I understand it, in any case, that can only stop the specifically addressed stuff, and not the stuff which the postie is given with directions to shove one through every door.

Not so, see Alan's ' Optout ' site above

The Postie actually makes more money if you opt out as he/she has to put it into your pile and then take it out again ... now tell me the RM didn't need to be privatised

[Frank Manning]

It would be good to be able to write 'return to sender' on the junk mail and then shove it back into the post box. Let Royal Mail see if they can claim back the postage!

I did once go through a phase of readdressing each piece of junk to one of the other firms who's send me something, but these days can't be bothered!

We did once register to stop it but haven't renewed, perhaps we should. As I understand it, in any case, that can only stop the specifically addressed stuff, and not the stuff which the postie is given with directions to shove one through every door.

That was just the point Merv. It wasn't Royal Mail. The delivery man was UK Mail, and was possibly Russian. I'm afraid I will never ne convinced that privatising everything is good for the country.

Little funny; When this same delivery man brought a parcel a few weeks ago, Sue answered the door, and he shouted at the top of his voice, "Fot ees your nem?" Sue came back in laughing and saying, "I knew that Putin was a nutter, but I didn't think the KGB were here already!"

[Stephen]

It would be good to be able to write 'return to sender' on the junk mail and then shove it back into the post box. Let Royal Mail see if they can claim back the postage!

I did once go through a phase of readdressing each piece of junk to one of the other firms who's send me something, but these days can't be bothered!

We did once register to stop it but haven't renewed, perhaps we should. As I understand it, in any case, that can only stop the specifically addressed stuff, and not the stuff which the postie is given with directions to shove one through every door.

That was just the point Merv. It wasn't Royal Mail. The delivery man was UK Mail, and was possibly Russian. I'm afraid I will never ne convinced that privatising everything is good for the country.

Little funny; When this same delivery man brought a parcel a few weeks ago, Sue answered the door, and he shouted at the top of his voice, "Fot ees your nem?" Sue came back in laughing and saying, "I knew that Putin was a nutter, but I didn't think the KGB were here already!"

The Ruskies get everywhere

[Stephen]

Opting out of the various forms of Junk Mail is easy enough to do .....

Been there, done that, still get it. You'll never stop it.

Have you renewed it ...

Has to be renewed every two years.

YourChoice@dma.org.uk
optout@royalmail.com

Thanks for the info Alan.

Done

[Barb44]

I have received a birthday card today, with a first class stamp on it. It was posted on 21st November - only taken 25 days to get here. Well it has travelled 210 miles!!

Barbara x