Brexit

[towny44]

Listening to a German MEP with a Scottish surname and an old etonian accent on Daily Politics yesterday, I am now beginning to understand (I think) what the EU officials called cherry picking. He said the EU is a rules based organisation therefore when we leave the single market and customs union we cannot expect our goods to flow as freely as before, the implication was that we would have a free trade deal with no tariffs, but we would have some sort of hard border.
Yippee I though, if all lorries have to be stopped and searched before they cross our border then all the illegals can immediately be shipped back.
But probably even better we could ask Amazon to take over our computerised import system and come up with a streamlined system that guarantees that the goods meet all necessary regulations and then are speedily delivered to the customer, and can they also turf out the illegals.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Listening to a German MEP with a Scottish surname and an old etonian accent on Daily Politics yesterday, I am now beginning to understand (I think) what the EU officials called cherry picking. He said the EU is a rules based organisation therefore when we leave the single market and customs union we cannot expect our goods to flow as freely as before, the implication was that we would have a free trade deal with no tariffs, but we would have some sort of hard border.
Yippee I though, if all lorries have to be stopped and searched before they cross our border then all the illegals can immediately be shipped back.
But probably even better we could ask Amazon to take over our computerised import system and come up with a streamlined system that guarantees that the goods meet all necessary regulations and then are speedily delivered to the customer, and can they also turf out the illegals.

Good plan!

[Manoverboard]

The Passport would cost an extra 63p or thereabouts if it was manufactured by De La Rue, a company with a very long history in the UK by the way. The Government has to listen to all bids under EU legislation but it does not have to accept the lowest bid, perhaps we can revisit the contract after we have left.

ps ... the posh division of Cadburys chocolates is still based at Bourneville, apparently.

[david63]

The Passport would cost an extra 63p or thereabouts if it was manufactured by De La Rue

And the cost of a UK passport is going up by £12.50 this week!!

[oldbluefox]

There was debate about EU Regional Funding being used to build factories in Poland at the time when production of Cadbury products was moved there "on a temporary basis". Oddly enough production of Cadbury's Dairy Milk was reported on July 2017 as being brought back to Bourneville from factories in Poland. I hadn't noticed but apparently a code on the back of each bar starting OWR means the bar was made in Wroclaw, Poland, OSK stands for Skarbimierz, Poland, and OBO indicates Bournville.
Meanwhile Caroline Lucas, on the Andrew Marr show was predicting untold poverty for our young people following Brexit so Project Fear is alive and kicking. She then said she wanted a people's vote on the final deal which, if the deal was rejected, would mean staying in the EU. But it wasn't another referendum!!! How can these people tell such blatant lies with a smile on their faces? They all do it but some people clearly believe them.

[oldbluefox]

The Passport would cost an extra 63p or thereabouts if it was manufactured by De La Rue

And the cost of a UK passport is going up by £12.50 this week!!

None of that will be going to De La Rue will it?

[barney]

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-lead ... n-council/





Hopefully a sensible deal can now be concluded that is mutually beneficial, with us as one of the EU's largest external trading partners, and them still having access to the financial clout of the City of London in return for reasonable access to their markets.

Wonderful! does this mean that the NHS will now get the £350 million a week, such good news.

I'm aware that you are posting such things with tongue in cheek Ray, because there was never such 'promise' as you well know. A good little wind up for some anyway

A very simple google search will tell anyone what the message on the bus actually said.

The Remoaniacs are now very much clutching at straws and any minor inconvenient message is very quickly jumped upon.
It really is getting quite embarrassing now, listening to the likes of Cable and Lucas.
They will look back in time and cringe.
Last week it was the Russians, then some Cambridge Data firm, then some whistle blower harping on about an over spend.

The inconvenient truth is the world hasn't ended. Millions are not on the dole. Inflation is not through the roof and the £ v $ is 1.41 today.
The day before the referendum it was $1.47 so not a major catastrophy by any standards.

The EU negotiating team have now accepted the result (unlike a few here) and are looking for the same as us. A mutually beneficial deal.
No more talk of punishments or isolation. Just a bit of pragmatism and an interest in getting the best deal for both sides of the table.

The only card that the Remainers have left now is to lobby for re-joining the EU at the next election in 2022.
We operate a parliamentry democracy in which the party with the most seats takes power.
Will any party have a manifesto lead to re-join the EU if elected?
Probably the LibDems and Greens.
Will Labour? Time will tell, but I guarantee one thing. If they did and were duely elected, do you think that the losing side would get as much airtime as the losing side have in this referendum?
I think not.

The bottom line is, it was a fair vote.
Leave narrowly won.
Remain narrowly lost.

Everything else is smoke and mirrors or 'phaff' as my old Mum used to say.

[Stephen]

Obnoxious little pr**k

Tony Blair: It is not too late to stop Brexit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43581733

[david63]

We are on countdown now - 365 days to go

[Mervyn and Trish]

365 days to leaving.

Hopefully 365 days to hearing the last of Tony Blair

[barney]

It seems amazing that these so called educated people are proposing to vote down an agreement without actually knowing what the agreement is.

Anna Soubry said recently on the Daily Politics that she couldn't think of any circumstance where she could vote with her own party expect if the whole thing was abandoned.

What if the final deal looks ok?
What if the majority of voters find it acceptable?
What if there was a referendum on the final deal and the majority voted to accept it?
Would they then quietly concede defeat and go away?
I rather think not.

I must admit that I've never known a time like it.

Anyone who feels so strongly against the UK leaving the EU now has until the end of 2020 to move to an EU country and retain all existing 'rights'
Hopefully, some of them will.
I was reading a letter in my local paper, sent in by a Dutch man who said thet he has been driven back to Holland due to the Brexit vote and his families life will never be the same again because his two children were born in the UK.
Initially, I had sympathy but later I thought to myself, life is all about choices and he has chosen to uproot his family and move his 'English' children to another country.
Don't lay your pathetic reasons onto Brexit I thought.
He could have just as easily stayed put, should he have chosen to.

The likes of Blair, Clegg and Lord Adonis ? need to wind their scrawny necks in and let things take their course.
Nobody really cares what they think, do they?

[Mervyn and Trish]

We have two friends who were born in England and Wales but have chosen to live in Brussels for many years and even have taken Belgian citizenship. They are horrified we've voted to leave. Why? They've chosen not to live here. Have no wish to ever live here. So if the UK goes to hell in a handcart it won't affect them at all.

Hmmmm.

But of course if us leaving means we keep our money and stop subsidising the EU maybe they've twigged they'll be worse off! The same reason the rest of the EU don't want us to leave. Not because we'll be adversely affected but maybe they will.

All reinforces my view that we're right to get out of the bureaucratic money pit.

[towny44]

The more I think about the future, the more I consider that the EU, as it is currently set up, is finished.
I fully expect us to make a success of Brexit, even if it only means keeping pace economically with the other G7 countries.
If I am correct then I would expect other countries to consider leaving as well, and once that happens the EU ceases to be a viable entity, especially as it has totally failed to live within it's current budget.

[Mervyn and Trish]

The more I think about the future, the more I consider that the EU, as it is currently set up, is finished.
I fully expect us to make a success of Brexit, even if it only means keeping pace economically with the other G7 countries.
If I am correct then I would expect other countries to consider leaving as well, and once that happens the EU ceases to be a viable entity, especially as it has totally failed to live within it's current budget.

Which will be even less when we're gone, unless Germany stumps up more. Another reason they want us to stay.

[Manoverboard]

... the ONLY reason they want us to stay methinks !

[barney]

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... py-waters/

Reading articles like this makes you realise the impact of us leaving the EU on other nations.
40% of their local economy?

I think that this will be one small part of our economy that May will be willing to sacrifice for a deal in other areas.

Now that the penny has finally dropped and the EU accept that it going to happen, the agreements should come thick and fast.
As a major customer of many European areas, they understand that it's a lot more difficult to find customers than suppliers.
If May holds her nerve, it should be relatively straight forward from here.
Instead of the EU asking what we want. we've got to start asking what they want for access to our market place (and fishing waters)

[oldbluefox]

But how many times have we said they need us more than we need them?

[barney]

https://www.politico.eu/article/commiss ... mogherini/

A bit of info for all of those who think the status quo has ever been on the table

The options clearly where ... leave or a ever expanding EU of recipient countries.

I'm glad that the UK chose to leave.

Nothing against Albanians but, how on earth can they comply with the standards required for entry?

[Manoverboard]

Very few, if any, of the Balkan Countries could possibly comply if our travelling experience was anything to go by.

[screwy]

Still wondering where Jack is..?

[oldbluefox]

I see the pound has recovered from the shock that the powers that be were so confident we would all vote to remain.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Maybe we're not doomed after all

[towny44]

Oh come on we must be, all the liberal southerners said we were.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Fair point. Forgive my ignorance and confusion. I was blinded by the lies.

[oldbluefox]

Oh come on we must be, all the liberal southerners said we were.

Can I come out of hiding now that it's safe? I take it the world has not come to an end and GB Inc has not collapsed?