Brexit

Unread post by **barney** » 17 Jan 2019, 20:24

They are not our friends Jack. They are out for themselves as is everyone else. Wait until we leave. Then their true colours will come out. We are all competitors.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 17 Jan 2019, 20:28

barney wrote: 17 Jan 2019, 20:24
They are not our friends Jack. They are out for themselves as is everyone else. Wait until we leave. Then their true colours will come out. We are all competitors.

Exactly. We will suddenly be on our own with no friends.
That trade deal with them will go well won't it?

Unread post by **barney** » 17 Jan 2019, 20:42

To be honest Gill, I couldn't care if they want a deal or not. WTO works for most of the world. The EU is not the world. It's an ever decreasing Un- natural set up.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 17 Jan 2019, 20:52

barney wrote: 17 Jan 2019, 20:42
To be honest Gill, I couldn't care if they want a deal or not. WTO works for most of the world. The EU is not the world. It's an ever decreasing Un- natural set up.

Wrong there Barney. The EU is pretty much the world in that we currently have trade deals with all these countries...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_ ... agreements
that we will lose 29th March if we do what you suggest.

Unread post by **Gill W** » 17 Jan 2019, 21:42

barney wrote: 17 Jan 2019, 20:42
To be honest Gill, I couldn't care if they want a deal or not. WTO works for most of the world. The EU is not the world. It's an ever decreasing Un- natural set up.

Other countries are in trading blocks and have trade deals with other countries. As I’ve said several times before no advanced economy trades solely on WTO terms.

However, I’ve fully got the picture with you. You want out, regardless of the damage it will cause, and are obsessed with blame.

Unread post by **barney** » 17 Jan 2019, 22:37

Not obsessed with blame Gill but I do want out at any cost. We only have this chance. Step up preparations for no WA agreement.

Unread post by **barney** » 17 Jan 2019, 22:51

Irish brexit minister on Newsnight has just said that Ireland will not put up infrastructure for a border in Ireland. So if we don't and they don't, then who will? Shows the backstop is cobblers. Project fear is now in overdrive because the argument is lost.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 17 Jan 2019, 22:58

Barney, I think you might be a bit 'tired and emotional' tonight.

Unread post by **Stephen** » 18 Jan 2019, 08:20

I watched Blair for a very short while on tv last night saying the people should have another vote and that if the results again come back that they want to leave the EU then we must accept it and get on with it.

REALLY! So how would that be different to now, now being the people voted to leave and the government have made a pigs ear of it and would probably do the same again. The blokes an idiot.

Unread post by **oldbluefox** » 18 Jan 2019, 08:27

Good QT last night from Derby. Diane Abbott shown to be out of her depth and out of touch with her own Labour supporters and the People's Vote being shown as nothing more than a sophisticated pipe dream. Those in favour couldn't even agree on what the options should be!!! Biggest cheer of the night when Isabel Oakshott expressed her option for leaving the EU without a deal. Not comfortable viewing for Remainers.

Unread post by **barney** » 18 Jan 2019, 09:52

The headline from Remain Guardian today

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... oples-vote

To save you the trouble of wading through it, many Labour Ministers are concerned how they can face their constituents if the allow another referendum, bearing in mind that most Labour constituencies voted to leave by a sizable majority.

The vocal few that the media constantly roll out do not apear to be representing Labour.

So, where does that leave us?

Unread post by **barney** » 18 Jan 2019, 09:55

Jack Staff wrote: 17 Jan 2019, 22:58
Barney, I think you might be a bit 'tired and emotional' tonight.

I had quaffed a few glasses of Sancerre when posting.

Lesson learned

I suppose I'l have to switch from French classics to wines from our former colonies after March

Unread post by **Onelife** » 18 Jan 2019, 10:21

Hi Barney.....The news that the "leave means leave" campaign is underway again will no doubt help with your hangover

Jack better have a stiff one before he reads this....

https://www.leavemeansleave.eu

Unread post by **Stephen** » 18 Jan 2019, 10:42

barney wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 09:55

Jack Staff wrote: 17 Jan 2019, 22:58
Barney, I think you might be a bit 'tired and emotional' tonight.
I had quaffed a few glasses of Sancerre when posting.

Lesson learned

I suppose I'l have to switch from French classics to wines from our former colonies after March

I wouldn't worry too much barney. French wine has always been cr*p anyway

Unread post by **Stephen** » 18 Jan 2019, 10:44

Onelife wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 10:21
Hi Barney.....The news that the "leave means leave" campaign is underway again will no doubt help with your hangover

Jack better have a stiff one before he reads this....

https://www.leavemeansleave.eu

Already done that once Keith, when I voted to leave. No need to do it again.

Unread post by **Gill W** » 18 Jan 2019, 11:24

oldbluefox wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 08:27
Good QT last night from Derby. Diane Abbott shown to be out of her depth and out of touch with her own Labour supporters and the People's Vote being shown as nothing more than a sophisticated pipe dream. Those in favour couldn't even agree on what the options should be!!! Biggest cheer of the night when Isabel Oakshott expressed her option for leaving the EU without a deal. Not comfortable viewing for Remainers.

I suppose you'd like to believe that it was uncomfortable viewing for Remainers, but, honestly, it was nothing. It was just standard leave stuff, and the Leave crowd confirmed that, as usual, that Leavers are only interested in Leaving. They give no thought as to what happens next, and the few that have thought, either think they are immune, or simply don't care. This is seen every day, including on this forum. it was nothing notable last night.

I'd like to believe, that the crowd took on board what Anand Menon said, in his calm measured tones. But I'm a realist, and know that with most of them, it was in one ear and out the other.

Unread post by **Onelife** » 18 Jan 2019, 11:30

Stephen wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 10:44

Onelife wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 10:21
Hi Barney.....The news that the "leave means leave" campaign is underway again will no doubt help with your hangover

Jack better have a stiff one before he reads this....

https://www.leavemeansleave.eu
Already done that once Keith, when I voted to leave. No need to do it again.

Hi Stephen. ....This is a new revamped campaign focusing on getting rid of Theresa May's plan (one which l support) and delivering on the leave means leave vote.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 18 Jan 2019, 11:46

barney wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 09:52
....... how they can face their constituents if the allow another referendum, bearing in mind that most Labour constituencies voted to leave by a sizable majority.

The Islington Tribune, Corbyn's local paper, today has a wrap around cover advertisement, paid for by his local party "Don't enable a Tory Brexit - Our party's future needs a public vote". (but of course, that's Islington, with the Champagne socialists who can afford a stunt like that).

The "sizeable majority" in heartland Labour is remain. Try something like "labour seats now remain" in Google.

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 18 Jan 2019, 11:55

Leavemeanslies back up and running again? Hmmmm, must be another referendum coming......

Unread post by **Onelife** » 18 Jan 2019, 12:14

Jack Staff wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 11:55
Leavemeanslies back up and running again? Hmmmm, must be another referendum coming......

In your dreams Jack....l said you should have one stiff one not half a dozen

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 18 Jan 2019, 12:22

Onelife wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 12:14

Jack Staff wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 11:55
Leavemeanslies back up and running again? Hmmmm, must be another referendum coming......
In your dreams Jack....l said you should have one stiff one not half a dozen

I just took a look, Hahahahaha that is ridiculous!

"WEEK OF OUTRAGE | LONDON
On Monday the 14th, and Tuesday the 15th, we are back holding daily protests outside Parliament. "

This was four (obviously paid) 'pit girls' waving placards, just for some photos. What an absolute shower!

Unread post by **Onelife** » 18 Jan 2019, 12:44

Jack Staff wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 12:22

Onelife wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 12:14

Jack Staff wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 11:55
Leavemeanslies back up and running again? Hmmmm, must be another referendum coming......
In your dreams Jack....l said you should have one stiff one not half a dozen
I just took a look, Hahahahaha that is ridiculous!

"WEEK OF OUTRAGE | LONDON
On Monday the 14th, and Tuesday the 15th, we are back holding daily protests outside Parliament. "

This was four (obviously paid) 'pit girls' waving placards, just for some photos. What an absolute shower!

hehehehe. ...The man who must see his remain bubble is punctured beyond repair

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 18 Jan 2019, 13:33

Onelife wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 12:44
hehehehe. ...The man who must see his remain bubble is punctured beyond repair

ermm?

Unread post by **Jack Staff** » 18 Jan 2019, 13:50

ah! I see what you mean now. Remain is going totally mainstream, flowing out across the media, loads taking about how bad leave actually is and how we should revoke Article 50.
Thought you'd lost it for a bit there.

Unread post by **barney** » 18 Jan 2019, 14:25

Remain has always been mainstream in my opinion. BBC clearly remain. SKY clearly remain. The government at the time of the referendum was remain. The opposition were remain. Bank of England remain. CBI remain. IMF remain. The only mainstream for leave was three papers. The Express. The Mail. The Telegraph. The Mail now has a new editor and has softened as has the Telegraph a bit. The Express has held fast. The Sun doesn't count in my opinion.

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