I know Merv, for 3 yrs I believed it,must have been a dream, oh well.
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screwy
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Brexit
I know what you're saying Gill. But that then means we were thoroughly conned by the Remain side led by Call Me Dave when he said it was our decision. And there's me thinking it was only the Leave campaign who told lies. 
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barney
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I'd think it's almost guaranteed GillGill W wrote: 29 Sep 2019, 16:45What exactly do you think going to happen? are you talking about angry mobs on the streets?barney wrote: 29 Sep 2019, 16:25And totally ignore the inconvenient fact of a democratic decision.Ray Scully wrote: 29 Sep 2019, 16:19
Naw, take the Politicians out of it. Set up a Royal Commission to impartially look at the facts. Then perhaps we may have the basis for a sensible discussions and decision.
That'll go down well Ray.
I fear that we ain't seen nothing yet.
All the hands will be thrown up in horror when it really does kick off.
At least they can't say that no one saw it coming.
No election will be the same again.
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Gill W
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Re: Brexit
Bearing in mind that most Brexit voters are older people, are you saying the old people of this nation are going to be out rioting?
Are you and the rest of the thread going to take to the streets and start smashing things up if things don’t go the way you think they should?
Are you and the rest of the thread going to take to the streets and start smashing things up if things don’t go the way you think they should?
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towny44
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Gill, why are you still flogging this dead horse, did you not read Dave's costly, but paid by the taxman rather than remain funds, manifesto where the govt promised to honour the result.Gill W wrote: 29 Sep 2019, 16:52
Any commission would have to go right back to the beginning - for example, whether or not the referendum was binding.
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Mervyn and Trish
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I'm not going rioting or demonstrating. But 17m people voted for Brexit. If 0.1% decide to kick off that's big trouble.Gill W wrote: 29 Sep 2019, 17:53Are you and the rest of the thread going to take to the streets and start smashing things up if things don’t go the way you think they should?
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barney
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The rise of the far right is slowly seeping in.
Almost inevitable if you follow history.
Almost inevitable if you follow history.
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Gill W
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Slowly seeping in?barney wrote: 29 Sep 2019, 18:41The rise of the far right is slowly seeping in.
Almost inevitable if you follow history.
That’s an understatement
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towny44
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Re: Brexit
In our neck of the woods its rather more of an overstatement, but we Yorkshire folk are fairly level headed and don't hold much truck with extremes of any persuasion.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Forgive me Gill but you seem a little inconsistent. Unless I misread it, a few posts back you were rather poo pooing the idea that ditching Brexit might cause riots because we Brexiteers are mostly old. Now you're suggesting the rise of the far right is beyond seeping in. Do you think they'll quietly accept the result of the referendum being overturned? They'll be the ones rioting, along with rent-a-mob who'll riot because someone burned their toast.
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Ray Scully
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Re: Brexit
Oh dear why did I bother

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Gill W
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No inconsistency at all.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Sep 2019, 19:57Forgive me Gill but you seem a little inconsistent. Unless I misread it, a few posts back you were rather poo pooing the idea that ditching Brexit might cause riots because we Brexiteers are mostly old. Now you're suggesting the rise of the far right is beyond seeping in. Do you think they'll quietly accept the result of the referendum being overturned? They'll be the ones rioting, along with rent-a-mob who'll riot because someone burned their toast.
I wasn't alluding to the mob or 'the people'
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barney
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As I said a few years ago, the far right are looking for an excuse.
Attempting to overturn Brexit has given them the excuse.
There are now more far right groups under surveillance than Muslim extremists.
I know this for a fact.
Many of the groups that were underground have become emboldened since the failure to deliver the referendum result.
Expect Hong Kong?
Maybe not
But there will be trouble.
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Gill W
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I’m not talking about far right groups either.
I didn’t particularly want to have to spell it out, as it’s the sort of thing that will cause even more upset.
But, hints are clearly not enough.
The narrative the govt is pushing has some of the properties of far right thinking.
The ‘will of the people’ is the obvious one, the obsession with a plot and hyping up an enemy threat(in this case the enemy is the EU) not to mention ‘Disagreement is Treason - the betrayal theme is a favourite.
I know you won’t agree - but it is there, even if you don’t want to see it.
I didn’t particularly want to have to spell it out, as it’s the sort of thing that will cause even more upset.
But, hints are clearly not enough.
The narrative the govt is pushing has some of the properties of far right thinking.
The ‘will of the people’ is the obvious one, the obsession with a plot and hyping up an enemy threat(in this case the enemy is the EU) not to mention ‘Disagreement is Treason - the betrayal theme is a favourite.
I know you won’t agree - but it is there, even if you don’t want to see it.
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In your opinionGill W wrote: 29 Sep 2019, 23:40I’m not talking about far right groups either.
I didn’t particularly want to have to spell it out, as it’s the sort of thing that will cause even more upset.
But, hints are clearly not enough.
The narrative the govt is pushing has some of the properties of far right thinking.
The ‘will of the people’ is the obvious one, the obsession with a plot and hyping up an enemy threat(in this case the enemy is the EU) not to mention ‘Disagreement is Treason - the betrayal theme is a favourite.
I know you won’t agree - but it is there, even if you don’t want to see it.
John
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
Would any of this have transpired if the result of the referendum been honoured? I doubt it. If true i say well done to the Remainers. What a toxic situation you have created.
I was taught to be cautious
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Re: Brexit
It's just good to see we have an alternative to the far right with Corbyn's moderate centre views.
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towny44
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Naughty, naughty Merv, sarcasm is not permitted on this forum.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 30 Sep 2019, 08:42It's just good to see we have an alternative to the far right with Corbyn's moderate centre views.
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oldbluefox
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Re: Brexit
Vote for Corbyn. He will negotiate a deal which only a fool would vote for and then put it to the people, that or remain. The clown thinks we will all fall for that but then we Leavers are all thick and don't know what we are voting for. 
I was taught to be cautious
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oldbluefox wrote: 30 Sep 2019, 09:09Vote for Corbyn. He will negotiate a deal which only a fool would vote for and then put it to the people, that or remain. The clown thinks we will all fall for that but then we Leavers are all thick and don't know what we are voting for.![]()
Speak fo for yourself Foxy
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Claim over Boris Johnson's behaviour 'deeply concerning' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49877508
Do me a favour. This allegedly happened almost twenty years ago and she's only bring it up now.
Do me a favour. This allegedly happened almost twenty years ago and she's only bring it up now.
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Well Michael Fallon's 'incident' with Julia Hartley Brewer happened almost 20 years ago and he thought fit to resign.Stephen wrote: 30 Sep 2019, 12:47Claim over Boris Johnson's behaviour 'deeply concerning' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49877508
Do me a favour. This allegedly happened almost twenty years ago and she's only bring it up now.![]()
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screwy
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Onelife
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The sh*t stirrers are getting desperate, next they'll be saying he is mistreating "Larry the cat"Stephen wrote: 30 Sep 2019, 12:47Claim over Boris Johnson's behaviour 'deeply concerning' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49877508
Do me a favour. This allegedly happened almost twenty years ago and she's only bring it up now.![]()