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Well if the MPs do reject it yet again then I hope those voting no will get their P 45s come the next GE.
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If they vote it down I look forward to the GE when the people can have their say. Also I wonder having agreed another deal whether the EU countries will be keen on yet another extension.
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Well done Boris …. those sneaky Remainers will surely not dare to reject it this time :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Manoverboard wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 13:06
Well done Boris …. those sneaky Remainers will surely not dare to reject it this time :clap: :clap: :clap:
I'm not betting my pension on it - are you :?:

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david63 wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 13:08
Manoverboard wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 13:06
Well done Boris …. those sneaky Remainers will surely not dare to reject it this time :clap: :clap: :clap:
I'm not betting my pension on it - are you :?:
No chance but I think that the ' Leave ' Labour MPs will carry the day … and deffo at the eleventh hour :thumbup: ;)
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david63 wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 13:08
Manoverboard wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 13:06
Well done Boris …. those sneaky Remainers will surely not dare to reject it this time :clap: :clap: :clap:
I'm not betting my pension on it - are you :?:
Nor me. But if they do and we then leave with no deal the remainers will have no one to blame but themselves

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What a total fudge of an agreement.
Who'd have thunk it :sarcasm:
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Junk-lar rules out an Extension …. should it be requested :thumbup:
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Manoverboard wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 14:34
Junk-lar rules out an Extension …. should it be requested :thumbup:
So that only leaves Boris's deal and no deal and everyone (well everyone who is interviewed) says that they do not not want a no deal so - job done. Can we move on now please?


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barney wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 13:23
What a total fudge of an agreement.
Who'd have thunk it :sarcasm:
Barney from what I have heard so far HOW can either camp be happy? The winner, the EU by 10 lengths :roll: :thumbdown:

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Deal or no deal, we leave on the 31st...............said Boris.

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Manoverboard wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 14:34
Junk-lar rules out an Extension …. should it be requested :thumbup:
Not up to him though
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Ray Scully wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 15:17
barney wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 13:23
What a total fudge of an agreement.
Who'd have thunk it :sarcasm:
Barney from what I have heard so far HOW can either camp be happy? The winner, the EU by 10 lengths :roll: :thumbdown:
I’ve been out today, so I’m not entirely up to speed.

So all this lark with a border in the sea between GB and NI is something that May said no PM would ever agree to and Johnson himself said in July he wouldn’t agree to.

So now we’ll have to wait until Saturday....... unless something happens in the meantime.....
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Stephen wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 15:21
Deal or no deal, we leave on the 31st...............said Boris.
Not the most reliable source!
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PART 2
Deal agreed, Corbyn resigns. new electable Labour leader. Labour win GE with a handsome majority. Labour go on to agree a very close trading agreement with the EU :thumbup: :D

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david63 wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 14:42
Manoverboard wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 14:34
Junk-lar rules out an Extension …. should it be requested :thumbup:
So that only leaves Boris's deal and no deal and everyone (well everyone who is interviewed) says that they do not not want a no deal so - job done. Can we move on now please?
So we accept something worse than we’ve got now just because.

Anyway, even if this amended WA was ever accepted, it’s not the end of the process, there’ll be years of negotiations regarding the future relationship and the trade agreement.
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Ray Scully wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 16:46
PART 2
Deal agreed, Corbyn resigns. new electable Labour leader. Labour win GE with a handsome majority. Labour go on to agree a very close trading agreement with the EU :thumbup: :D
And they’ve already said they’d put any new Labour deal to the public by way of a referendum
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Gill W wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 16:31
Manoverboard wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 14:34
Junk-lar rules out an Extension …. should it be requested :thumbup:
Not up to him though
Maybe / maybe not but either way we will not be having an extension on the basis that a deal has been agreed between the UK and the EU, as yet to be ratified of course. Failing that we leave without a deal on the 31st of October 2019 :clap: .

I do admire your determination not to accept defeat even though it's staring you in the face.
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Gill W wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 16:49
Ray Scully wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 16:46
PART 2
Deal agreed, Corbyn resigns. new electable Labour leader. Labour win GE with a handsome majority. Labour go on to agree a very close trading agreement with the EU :thumbup: :D
And they’ve already said they’d put any new Labour deal to the public by way of a referendum
That is because they are totally incapable of making ' Executive ' decisions :lol:
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Manoverboard wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 17:01


I do admire your determination not to accept defeat even though it's staring you in the face.
This is the future of our country we’re talking about, not the result of a football match.

I really struggle with the concept that people are happy to accept an inferior ‘deal’ to the one we have now, or even no deal at all, because they think of it as a personal victory
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Gill W wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 17:53
Manoverboard wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 17:01


I do admire your determination not to accept defeat even though it's staring you in the face.
This is the future of our country we’re talking about ….
I agree ….

Trading ' Globally ' is a far better option for the future of this Country than being locked into the restraining culture of the EU.
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Gill W wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 17:53

I really struggle with the concept that people are happy to accept an inferior ‘deal’ to the one we have now, or even no deal at all, because they think of it as a personal victory
You are making the same mistake Gill that Cameron and Osborne and Co made in assuming that Brexit was all about getting a better economic deal with the the EU then we had. It was never about that and in fact I think you do actually know that.

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Ray Scully wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 16:46
PART 2
Deal agreed, Corbyn resigns. new electable Labour leader. Labour win GE with a handsome majority. Labour go on to agree a very close trading agreement with the EU :thumbup: :D
I didn't realise you were a BBC news editor Ray.😉
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Gill W wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 17:53
I really struggle with the concept that people are happy to accept an inferior ‘deal’ to the one we have now, or even no deal at all,
How do you know that it is an inferior deal? It is a deal and it will work, if it is ratified.

Only history will determine how good, or bad, a deal (or no deal) it is and that will never be absolute as there is no benchmark to judge it against.

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 18:13
Gill W wrote: 17 Oct 2019, 17:53

I really struggle with the concept that people are happy to accept an inferior ‘deal’ to the one we have now, or even no deal at all, because they think of it as a personal victory
You are making the same mistake Gill that Cameron and Osborne and Co made in assuming that Brexit was all about getting a better economic deal with the the EU then we had. It was never about that and in fact I think you do actually know that.
I’ve said many times before that Brexit affects everything, therefore you are correct that I actually know that
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