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Mervyn and Trish
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I was amused by Jo Swinson and Nicola Sturgeon trying to get in on the act on the grounds that only having Jezzer and Bojo was sexist.
Do they not understand that this debate was between the leaders of the two main parties, the only two people likely to be PM after the election?
If the Tory and Labour leaders had been women there would have been two women on the debate. If the leaders of the SNP and the Lib Dems had been men they still would not have been there.
Trying to play the sexism card is frankly pathetic. I'm just surprised no-one complained that neither of the combatants was a black disabled lesbian.
As far as Mrs Krankie goes, in my view she should not be permitted on any debate broadcast outside of Scotland. Since no-one elsewhere can actually vote SNP that would be a waste of air time.
Do they not understand that this debate was between the leaders of the two main parties, the only two people likely to be PM after the election?
If the Tory and Labour leaders had been women there would have been two women on the debate. If the leaders of the SNP and the Lib Dems had been men they still would not have been there.
Trying to play the sexism card is frankly pathetic. I'm just surprised no-one complained that neither of the combatants was a black disabled lesbian.
As far as Mrs Krankie goes, in my view she should not be permitted on any debate broadcast outside of Scotland. Since no-one elsewhere can actually vote SNP that would be a waste of air time.
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barney
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Well, Jezza's manifesto was interesting wasn't it.
All that was missing was a partridge in a pear tree.
I'm disappointed that free cruise holidays were not included. We'd all turn Marxist
All that was missing was a partridge in a pear tree.
I'm disappointed that free cruise holidays were not included. We'd all turn Marxist
Free and Accepted
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towny44
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Jo Swinson in her interview with Laura K was complaining that the UK had become a laughing stock over the Brexit debate. After viewing snippets of Boris and Jeremy's head to head, then her's and Mrs Krankie's manifesto launch speeches, I imagine that the rest of the World must be rolling on the floor laughing at us even louder if these are the best party leaders and election promises that the UK can muster.
Surely there must be some intelligent members of the armed forces who could organise a coup and set up an interim government, maybe for the next 50 years, whilst giving the political system time to develop some sensible politicians who are fit to govern us?
Surely there must be some intelligent members of the armed forces who could organise a coup and set up an interim government, maybe for the next 50 years, whilst giving the political system time to develop some sensible politicians who are fit to govern us?
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Now why would that be? Surely nothing to do with MPs and Parliament? - hang on a minute, she is an MP in Parliament!towny44 wrote: 21 Nov 2019, 14:18Jo Swinson in her interview with Laura K was complaining that the UK had become a laughing stock over the Brexit debate.
Best one I have heard for a long time - parents should be given an extra vote for each child that they have!!!!
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Mervyn and Trish
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The problem is that in general elections some parties know they are not going to be forming a government so they can promise anything they like, safe in the knowledge they'll never be held to account. I include in that routinely the Lib Dems, Greens, SDP, Plaid Cymru and a few others. So their manifestos are always a joke.
This time it looks as if Labour are assuming they'll lose too!
This time it looks as if Labour are assuming they'll lose too!
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Corbyn has nearly won me over with a promise of pay rises for public sector workers (hoping that includes poor old local govt pensioners) so if he was to give a free cruise as well he would get my vote.barney wrote: 21 Nov 2019, 14:03I'm disappointed that free cruise holidays were not included. We'd all turn Marxist
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barney
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Nah. He's going to wallop the Boomers Ken.
He's after the 'have eff all' vote.
He's looking for the young vote.
I like much of his manifesto but I think that most of it is unachievable.
He's after the 'have eff all' vote.
He's looking for the young vote.
I like much of his manifesto but I think that most of it is unachievable.
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towny44
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But that's the main problem with his sort of socialism it has never worked anywhere, if you stifle enterprise by taxing the rich, the only ones to suffer in the long term are the poorest in society. Socialism might be the fairest system, but under capitalism everyone is better off.barney wrote: 21 Nov 2019, 23:45Nah. He's going to wallop the Boomers Ken.
He's after the 'have eff all' vote.
He's looking for the young vote.
I like much of his manifesto but I think that most of it is unachievable.
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Onelife
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Too Truetowny44 wrote: 22 Nov 2019, 07:51But that's the main problem with his sort of socialism it has never worked anywhere, if you stifle enterprise by taxing the rich, the only ones to suffer in the long term are the poorest in society. Socialism might be the fairest system, but under capitalism everyone is better off.barney wrote: 21 Nov 2019, 23:45Nah. He's going to wallop the Boomers Ken.
He's after the 'have eff all' vote.
He's looking for the young vote.
I like much of his manifesto but I think that most of it is unachievable.
Hi John.....so let's get this right..... if Corbyn gets into No10 he will, in three months sort out a new Brexit deal? (with all the complexities that would entail) He will give public sector workers a 5% pay rise while reorganising how public sector services work. He will Nationalise our utilities, but hasn't as yet said how much it will cost, or how he will do it.... perhaps he's thinking he'll get his Union buddies to do the negotiations lol.
Load applause for their "Us First" 32 hour week propasal.....It is a proposal as there are no implantation time scales other than to say NHS staff will be last in line due to the fact that their isn't enough staff to run a 5 day week let alone a rotated 7 day week which is how they work now.
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Onelife
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Re: General Election
The only good thing to come out of tonight's leaders debate was that there seemed to be a more educated audience who posed questions that had a couple of leaders blushing from ear to ear. Jo Swinson did her parties political ambitions no good at all with her unconvincing answers.
Sturgeon gave her normal one issue rant, which for the most, fell on deaf ears.
Father (Corbyn) Christmas tried to convince the audience that he really is Father Christmas with his "have now pay latter promises".
I'm sure Boris would have been more convincing if it wasn't for Fiona (bias) Bruce's interruptions. Nethetheless, he still came across better than Father Christmas and the two dwarfs... imo
Sturgeon gave her normal one issue rant, which for the most, fell on deaf ears.
Father (Corbyn) Christmas tried to convince the audience that he really is Father Christmas with his "have now pay latter promises".
I'm sure Boris would have been more convincing if it wasn't for Fiona (bias) Bruce's interruptions. Nethetheless, he still came across better than Father Christmas and the two dwarfs... imo
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Re: General Election
I am not a supporter of the SNP but I was actually quite impressed with NS's performance … sensible and honest sounding.
The others all waffled to a greater extent.
The others all waffled to a greater extent.
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Out of all of them, Sturgeon sounded the most authoritative and, dare I say, trustworthy.
Corbyn wasn’t too bad, but Swinson had a nightmare experience.
As for Johnson, when he’s not allowed to repeat ‘get Brexit done’ and ‘oven ready deal’ ad infinitum, it shows what an blustering empty vessel he is.
Corbyn wasn’t too bad, but Swinson had a nightmare experience.
As for Johnson, when he’s not allowed to repeat ‘get Brexit done’ and ‘oven ready deal’ ad infinitum, it shows what an blustering empty vessel he is.
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Onelife
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Hi Mob.....It was interesting to hear Corbyn say there would be no Scotish referendum for at least two year, only then for Sturgeon to imply he will give them one within the year.....There are no depths that Sturgeon won't go to get independence.....blackmail being one of them should the labour party need her support.Manoverboard wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 09:08I am not a supporter of the SNP but I was actually quite impressed with NS's performance … sensible and honest sounding.
The others all waffled to a greater extent.
I noted that all this drivel about burkas and letterboxes raised it head again, both last night and on the previous nights QT.....There seemed to be much applause when Boris was asked to apologise for last year's remarks....likewise, there was applause when, on Thursdays QT a Muslim lady dressed in a niqab posed the question..."How can l trust a leader who likens me to a letterbox"? this also drew applause from the audience. (The lady in question is a English teacher)
Had l been in the audience l would have posed the question......"how many of you, who have just applauded would be happy for this lady to teach your children wearing a Niqab"? (Silence speaks louder than words)
There is a little bit of hypocrisy in all of us not least when we have to tell the truth.
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towny44
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Rather like Nigel and the Brexit party, if you are a single item party with no possibility of ever forming the UK govt you can sound authorative.Gill W wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 10:54Out of all of them, Sturgeon sounded the most authoritative and, dare I say, trustworthy.
Corbyn wasn’t too bad, but Swinson had a nightmare experience.
As for Johnson, when he’s not allowed to repeat ‘get Brexit done’ and ‘oven ready deal’ ad infinitum, it shows what an blustering empty vessel he is.
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Manoverboard
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Nige and NS, I believe, recognise that they are fighting for a single cause. This for me is a realistic target whereas ' We will put a penny on Income Tax and I will be the Prime Minister " demonstrates just how backward thinking the Lib Dems really are.
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I nearly posted a very rude reply to Gill W but restrained myself got to control my finger after a few red wines but I can assure that many in Scotland don't think she is trustworthy!!


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towny44
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I think the figure at the last referendum was 55%, but Gill only believe that referendums are advisory, so I assume the 55% that voted to remain in the UK don't count in her world.Happydays wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 22:31I nearly posted a very rude reply to Gill W but restrained myself got to control my finger after a few red wines but I can assure that many in Scotland don't think she is trustworthy!!![]()
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Dangerous stuff red wine. Don't touch it myselfHappydays wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 22:31I nearly posted a very rude reply to Gill W but restrained myself got to control my finger after a few red wines but I can assure that many in Scotland don't think she is trustworthy!!![]()
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Mervyn and Trish
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Not since the injunction. .....Stephen wrote: 24 Nov 2019, 07:41Dangerous stuff red wine. Don't touch it myselfHappydays wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 22:31I nearly posted a very rude reply to Gill W but restrained myself got to control my finger after a few red wines but I can assure that many in Scotland don't think she is trustworthy!!![]()
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 24 Nov 2019, 08:27Not since the injunction. .....Stephen wrote: 24 Nov 2019, 07:41Dangerous stuff red wine. Don't touch it myselfHappydays wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 22:31I nearly posted a very rude reply to Gill W but restrained myself got to control my finger after a few red wines but I can assure that many in Scotland don't think she is trustworthy!!![]()
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towny44
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More likely to be The Junction Inn.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 24 Nov 2019, 08:27Not since the injunction. .....Stephen wrote: 24 Nov 2019, 07:41Dangerous stuff red wine. Don't touch it myselfHappydays wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 22:31I nearly posted a very rude reply to Gill W but restrained myself got to control my finger after a few red wines but I can assure that many in Scotland don't think she is trustworthy!!![]()
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david63
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Re: General Election
I think that I am starting to loose the plot.
The latest from Mrs Kranki, in support of Labour, is that she not only wants Brexit stopped, second Indi referendum and scrapping Trident - but I thought that Trident was a significant employer in Scotland.
Perhaps the plan is that the UK does not leave the EU so that when Scotland is independent they will get bucket loads of our money from the EU because of mass unemployment - or have I got it wrong????
The latest from Mrs Kranki, in support of Labour, is that she not only wants Brexit stopped, second Indi referendum and scrapping Trident - but I thought that Trident was a significant employer in Scotland.
Perhaps the plan is that the UK does not leave the EU so that when Scotland is independent they will get bucket loads of our money from the EU because of mass unemployment - or have I got it wrong????
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If we leave the EU and Scotland gets independence and manages to persuade the EU to accept them, who builds the wall?
I will not be pleased if she manages to overturn the referendum result and then Scotland gets independence leaving The rest of us with an EU the majority did not want. I wonder if our Remainer friends would say that the circumstances had changed and therefore we should have a Peoples Vote on the matter?
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I will not be pleased if she manages to overturn the referendum result and then Scotland gets independence leaving The rest of us with an EU the majority did not want. I wonder if our Remainer friends would say that the circumstances had changed and therefore we should have a Peoples Vote on the matter?
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