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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:48
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:20
anniec wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:15


I agree, and suggestions that were it not for Cummings' transgressions (we'll agree to disagree on whether he transgressed or not) those demonstrating, fighting with the police and partying would be sitting meekly at home doing a spot of solitary knitting is well short of the mark.

Any thoughts on Jenrick?
Absolutely normal in UK politics
Normal for this government
Normal for all UK governments
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johnds wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 14:56
Yawn
For maximum effect you could use the ' smilies ' :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

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towny44 wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:54

But wasn't David Frost formerly a civil servant?
Formerly, not currently. Therefore a political appointment
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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:30
towny44 wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:54

But wasn't David Frost formerly a civil servant?
Formerly, not currently. Therefore a political appointment
As are all senior civil service appointments. Nothing new. Nothing sinister.

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Onelife wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 14:19
Manoverboard wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:53
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:47
Don’t you think he should have at least held his hands up and said he was wrong and apologise ...
Well there's a novel idea.
He doesn’t strike me as a born-again Christian Gill :lol: …hallelujah!!

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johnds wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 14:56
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:47
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:07


Though the police investigation showed his transgression was minor on the BC trip and the Durham one was quite legal.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like him. But I think it's time to move on. The thing that is killing people is Covid 19, not Dominic Cummings.
We were told to stay at home if we had C19.

He drove to his second home (not his parents home) while his wife had C19 and he was incubating it.

We were also told not to drive to second homes.

He drove to Barnard Castle on Easter Sunday (also his wife’s birthday) for an ‘eyetest’ at a time we were asked not to make unnecessary journeys.

The vast majority of the country were doing their utmost to adhere to the lockdown.

Don’t you think he should have at least held his hands up and said he was wrong and apologise, instead of arrogantly engineering a bizarre explanation?
Yawn
Don't be so silly :roll: :crazy: :wtf:
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johnds wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 14:56
Yawn
Time for your afternoon nap? :lol:

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:03
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:47
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:07


Though the police investigation showed his transgression was minor on the BC trip and the Durham one was quite legal.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like him. But I think it's time to move on. The thing that is killing people is Covid 19, not Dominic Cummings.
We were told to stay at home if we had C19.

He drove to his second home (not his parents home) while his wife had C19 and he was incubating it.

We were also told not to drive to second homes.

He drove to Barnard Castle on Easter Sunday (also his wife’s birthday) for an ‘eyetest’ at a time we were asked not to make unnecessary journeys.

The vast majority of the country were doing their utmost to adhere to the lockdown.

Don’t you think he should have at least held his hands up and said he was wrong and apologise, instead of arrogantly engineering a bizarre explanation?
No. He was investigated by the police. The end..
He was morally wrong, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore. What a time to be alive!
Just saying it's The End doesn't mean it's actually the end. People aren't going to forget this, even though other people wish they would.
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:03
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:48
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:20


Absolutely normal in UK politics
Normal for this government
Normal for all UK governments
I'm old enough to remember when an MP did something iffy they'd at least resign from their post or be sacked for a while.

But Johnson says the matter is closed ( maybe because he himself has been seen with Desmond, there are photos) so perhaps he doesn't want too much digging around to happen.

But this is another thing people won't forget, even though other people wish they would
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A bit like the Brexit result. :moresarcasm: :o
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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:30
towny44 wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:54

But wasn't David Frost formerly a civil servant?
Formerly, not currently. Therefore a political appointment
You were implying he was unqualified and probably biased because he was a political appointee, but he had been the UK ambassador to Denmark so presumably fairly senior in the foreign office.
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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:35
johnds wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 14:56
Yawn
Don't be so silly :roll: :crazy: :wtf:
Don't be so patronising would be a valid response although I will delete it if he does.

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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:43
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:03
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:47


We were told to stay at home if we had C19.

He drove to his second home (not his parents home) while his wife had C19 and he was incubating it.

We were also told not to drive to second homes.

He drove to Barnard Castle on Easter Sunday (also his wife’s birthday) for an ‘eyetest’ at a time we were asked not to make unnecessary journeys.

The vast majority of the country were doing their utmost to adhere to the lockdown.

Don’t you think he should have at least held his hands up and said he was wrong and apologise, instead of arrogantly engineering a bizarre explanation?
No. He was investigated by the police. The end..
He was morally wrong, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore. What a time to be alive!
Just saying it's The End doesn't mean it's actually the end. People aren't going to forget this, even though other people wish they would.
Why don't you save yourself the trouble of further arguments by simply posting "I hate Boris and anyone else associated with him in the Leave campaign". Be so much simpler. If he donated a kidney to a dying black single mother you'd still pick holes in it.
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 16:19
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:43
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:03


No. He was investigated by the police. The end..
He was morally wrong, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore. What a time to be alive!
Just saying it's The End doesn't mean it's actually the end. People aren't going to forget this, even though other people wish they would.
Why don't you save yourself the trouble of further arguments by simply posting "I hate Boris and anyone else associated with him in the Leave campaign". Be so much simpler. If he donated a kidney to a dying black single mother you'd still pick holes in it.
Looking at the positives it would go a long way to healing some of the racial divides :thumbup: :sarcasm:

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Onelife wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 16:52
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 16:19
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:43


He was morally wrong, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore. What a time to be alive!
Just saying it's The End doesn't mean it's actually the end. People aren't going to forget this, even though other people wish they would.
Why don't you save yourself the trouble of further arguments by simply posting "I hate Boris and anyone else associated with him in the Leave campaign". Be so much simpler. If he donated a kidney to a dying black single mother you'd still pick holes in it.
Looking at the positives it would go a long way to healing some of the racial divides :thumbup: :sarcasm:
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towny44 wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:59
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:30
towny44 wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 13:54

But wasn't David Frost formerly a civil servant?
Formerly, not currently. Therefore a political appointment
You were implying he was unqualified and probably biased because he was a political appointee, but he had been the UK ambassador to Denmark so presumably fairly senior in the foreign office.
I said nothing about whether he was qualified or not.

But I do think Cummings/Johnson are surrounding themselves with yes men and women
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 16:19
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:43
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:03


No. He was investigated by the police. The end..
He was morally wrong, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore. What a time to be alive!
Just saying it's The End doesn't mean it's actually the end. People aren't going to forget this, even though other people wish they would.
Why don't you save yourself the trouble of further arguments by simply posting "I hate Boris and anyone else associated with him in the Leave campaign". Be so much simpler. If he donated a kidney to a dying black single mother you'd still pick holes in it.
I wouldn't post that because it would not be accurate.
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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:12
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 16:19
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:43


He was morally wrong, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore. What a time to be alive!
Just saying it's The End doesn't mean it's actually the end. People aren't going to forget this, even though other people wish they would.
Why don't you save yourself the trouble of further arguments by simply posting "I hate Boris and anyone else associated with him in the Leave campaign". Be so much simpler. If he donated a kidney to a dying black single mother you'd still pick holes in it.
I wouldn't post that because it would not be accurate.
Every post you make says otherwise.

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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:08
towny44 wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:59
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:30


Formerly, not currently. Therefore a political appointment
You were implying he was unqualified and probably biased because he was a political appointee, but he had been the UK ambassador to Denmark so presumably fairly senior in the foreign office.
I said nothing about whether he was qualified or not.

But I do think Cummings/Johnson are surrounding themselves with yes men and women
As do all PMs. Nothing sinister here

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:19
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:12
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 16:19


Why don't you save yourself the trouble of further arguments by simply posting "I hate Boris and anyone else associated with him in the Leave campaign". Be so much simpler. If he donated a kidney to a dying black single mother you'd still pick holes in it.
I wouldn't post that because it would not be accurate.
Every post you make says otherwise.
It's rather sweeping to say that I 'hate' everyone in the leave campaign. Hate is a very strong emotion, that I wouldn't waste on politicians
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:20
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:08
towny44 wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:59

You were implying he was unqualified and probably biased because he was a political appointee, but he had been the UK ambassador to Denmark so presumably fairly senior in the foreign office.
I said nothing about whether he was qualified or not.

But I do think Cummings/Johnson are surrounding themselves with yes men and women
As do all PMs. Nothing sinister here
One day you'll wake up one morning and realise we as a country are in a very bad place.

Until then, there's not much else I can say to you
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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:22
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:19
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:12


I wouldn't post that because it would not be accurate.
Every post you make says otherwise.
It's rather sweeping to say that I 'hate' everyone in the leave campaign. Hate is a very strong emotion, that I wouldn't waste on politicians
Nit picking

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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:23
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:20
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:08


I said nothing about whether he was qualified or not.

But I do think Cummings/Johnson are surrounding themselves with yes men and women
As do all PMs. Nothing sinister here
One day you'll wake up one morning and realise we as a country are in a very bad place.

Until then, there's not much else I can say to you
Because we democratically elected a government you don't like?

Or because we're in the grip of a virus which isn't their fault?

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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:08
towny44 wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:59
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 15:30


Formerly, not currently. Therefore a political appointment
You were implying he was unqualified and probably biased because he was a political appointee, but he had been the UK ambassador to Denmark so presumably fairly senior in the foreign office.
I said nothing about whether he was qualified or not.

But I do think Cummings/Johnson are surrounding themselves with yes men and women
I doubt they will be yes men, but they will have similar political views, and that sounds perfectly sensible to me.
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Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:22
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:19
Gill W wrote: 29 Jun 2020, 17:12


I wouldn't post that because it would not be accurate.
Every post you make says otherwise.
It's rather sweeping to say that I 'hate' everyone in the leave campaign. Hate is a very strong emotion, that I wouldn't waste on politicians
Your posts certainly seem to imply a massive dislike of Boris and his views, certainly bordering on hatred in their tone.
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