How does bu99er off soundOnelife wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 11:57Good morning… I thought it time for your resident ‘smart a*se’ put in an appearance.
After reading some of your posts I’m left thinking which label is worse…. ‘smart a*se. or self-righteousness, the latter easily attributed to some of you on here…. get sharpening your knives because here it comes….
I think some of you should start living in the real world and stop reminiscing about how bad you had it in the old days…listen up folks…. times change as do the expectations in a world that we/ others have created for ourselves. For some, things have improved, for others life isn’t much better than what it was in the old days, other than for technology availability, computers etc.
In one breath you decry all those who haven’t climbed out of their holes, and in the next breath you take the attitude. ‘serves yourself right, you’re on your own’ for all those who have sought to make their lives better by getting on the housing ladder (which I may add is a dam sight harder now than what it was when we got on the housing ladder)
‘Incongruous’ indeed
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I was about to reply before you changed it so cannot say ' Spot on ' to your latest version
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No, Merv, you are way off the mark.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:03A brief move away from our Dickensian upbringings to Covid.
I've noticed every time a new country is included in the quarantine requirement many people rush to criticise our own country and say it is much safer in France/Poland etc than here. I suspect they are mostly those whose holidays have been spoilt and are keen to blame anyone other than themselves for being so daft as to go away at the first opportunity.
So just a quick look at the latest figures for the two countries I exampled above. France now has around 4 times as many daily new cases as us. Poland has about the same despite having just over half our population and has just recorded its record daily number. It feels to me they're getting the decisions on quarantine about right.
France is much safer then the UK if you are not in the age range 20-40 and you avoid the nightspots of Paris and Marseille. It is an enormous country with wide a low population density.
France has increased the number of tests enormously so it is no surprise that they find more cases. They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.
This quarantine nonsense is a political act of vindictiveness and spitefulness by a Prime Minister who likes to think that by acting tough he will gain popularity. It will make no difference to the number of cases in the UK. How many cases have there been amongst those who have returned?
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I can always change it back providing I don't hear the sound of sirensManoverboard wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:13I was about to reply before you changed it so cannot say ' Spot on ' to your latest version![]()
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I would have preferred chicken nuggetsStephen wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:08How does bu99er off soundOnelife wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 11:57Good morning… I thought it time for your resident ‘smart a*se’ put in an appearance.
After reading some of your posts I’m left thinking which label is worse…. ‘smart a*se. or self-righteousness, the latter easily attributed to some of you on here…. get sharpening your knives because here it comes….
I think some of you should start living in the real world and stop reminiscing about how bad you had it in the old days…listen up folks…. times change as do the expectations in a world that we/ others have created for ourselves. For some, things have improved, for others life isn’t much better than what it was in the old days, other than for technology availability, computers etc.
In one breath you decry all those who haven’t climbed out of their holes, and in the next breath you take the attitude. ‘serves yourself right, you’re on your own’ for all those who have sought to make their lives better by getting on the housing ladder (which I may add is a dam sight harder now than what it was when we got on the housing ladder)
‘Incongruous’ indeed
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Squeak squeak...are you a mouse or a chicken.?Stephen wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:20I can always change it back providing I don't hear the sound of sirensManoverboard wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:13I was about to reply before you changed it so cannot say ' Spot on ' to your latest version![]()
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The prospect of having to listen to squalking Billy means that I cannot agree to your reasonable requestStephen wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:20I can always change it back providing I don't hear the sound of sirens![]()
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Onelife wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:26Squeak squeak...are you a mouse or a chicken.?Stephen wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:20I can always change it back providing I don't hear the sound of sirensManoverboard wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:13
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BBC one o'clock news rubbished your theory Keefie, they agreed with the need for current quarantine restrictions, and confirmed that despite the apparent increasing cases in the UK this is entirely due to the increased testing of the hotspots, and the ONS stats show that cases in the UK have stabilised. Maybe you need to revise your theories.Quizzical Bob wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:18No, Merv, you are way off the mark.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:03A brief move away from our Dickensian upbringings to Covid.
I've noticed every time a new country is included in the quarantine requirement many people rush to criticise our own country and say it is much safer in France/Poland etc than here. I suspect they are mostly those whose holidays have been spoilt and are keen to blame anyone other than themselves for being so daft as to go away at the first opportunity.
So just a quick look at the latest figures for the two countries I exampled above. France now has around 4 times as many daily new cases as us. Poland has about the same despite having just over half our population and has just recorded its record daily number. It feels to me they're getting the decisions on quarantine about right.
France is much safer then the UK if you are not in the age range 20-40 and you avoid the nightspots of Paris and Marseille. It is an enormous country with wide a low population density.
France has increased the number of tests enormously so it is no surprise that they find more cases. They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.
This quarantine nonsense is a political act of vindictiveness and spitefulness by a Prime Minister who likes to think that by acting tough he will gain popularity. It will make no difference to the number of cases in the UK. How many cases have there been amongst those who have returned?
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Quizzical Bob wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:18
No, Merv, you are way off the mark.
I don't think so.
France is much safer then the UK if you are not in the age range 20-40 and you avoid the nightspots of Paris and Marseille.
Ditto here if you are not in the hotspots.
It is an enormous country with wide a low population density.
When I mentioned population density as a factor in our death rate it was poo-poo'ed. So suddenly it's relevant now?
France has increased the number of tests enormously so it is no surprise that they find more cases.
As have we. We have carried out more tests than any other country in Europe (discounting Russia) - more than twice as many as France.
They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.
And how many is that? However they count it their number of cases is escalating fast, unlike ours
This quarantine nonsense is a political act of vindictiveness and spitefulness by a Prime Minister who likes to think that by acting tough he will gain popularity. It will make no difference to the number of cases in the UK. How many cases have there been amongst those who have returned?
So when we didn't restrict people flying in we were wrong. And now we are, we are wrong?
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Germany have very specifically put their increase in covid cases down to returning holiday makers.Quizzical Bob wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:18No, Merv, you are way off the mark.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:03A brief move away from our Dickensian upbringings to Covid.
I've noticed every time a new country is included in the quarantine requirement many people rush to criticise our own country and say it is much safer in France/Poland etc than here. I suspect they are mostly those whose holidays have been spoilt and are keen to blame anyone other than themselves for being so daft as to go away at the first opportunity.
So just a quick look at the latest figures for the two countries I exampled above. France now has around 4 times as many daily new cases as us. Poland has about the same despite having just over half our population and has just recorded its record daily number. It feels to me they're getting the decisions on quarantine about right.
France is much safer then the UK if you are not in the age range 20-40 and you avoid the nightspots of Paris and Marseille. It is an enormous country with wide a low population density.
France has increased the number of tests enormously so it is no surprise that they find more cases. They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.
This quarantine nonsense is a political act of vindictiveness and spitefulness by a Prime Minister who likes to think that by acting tough he will gain popularity. It will make no difference to the number of cases in the UK. How many cases have there been amongst those who have returned?
The virus was spread by international travel.
It didn’t swim here, it came in and was passed on by a returning tourist.
Until people can get it through their thick sculls that international travel will continue to spread the virus, we will be in a permanent state of flux.
Safer in France?
Safer in Croatia?
Yeah ! Right!
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Everybody rubbishes my theories John, but on this occasion, what you are referring to wasn’t my theory.towny44 wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 13:48BBC one o'clock news rubbished your theory Keefie, they agreed with the need for current quarantine restrictions, and confirmed that despite the apparent increasing cases in the UK this is entirely due to the increased testing of the hotspots, and the ONS stats show that cases in the UK have stabilised. Maybe you need to revise your theories.Quizzical Bob wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:18No, Merv, you are way off the mark.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:03A brief move away from our Dickensian upbringings to Covid.
I've noticed every time a new country is included in the quarantine requirement many people rush to criticise our own country and say it is much safer in France/Poland etc than here. I suspect they are mostly those whose holidays have been spoilt and are keen to blame anyone other than themselves for being so daft as to go away at the first opportunity.
So just a quick look at the latest figures for the two countries I exampled above. France now has around 4 times as many daily new cases as us. Poland has about the same despite having just over half our population and has just recorded its record daily number. It feels to me they're getting the decisions on quarantine about right.
France is much safer then the UK if you are not in the age range 20-40 and you avoid the nightspots of Paris and Marseille. It is an enormous country with wide a low population density.
France has increased the number of tests enormously so it is no surprise that they find more cases. They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.
This quarantine nonsense is a political act of vindictiveness and spitefulness by a Prime Minister who likes to think that by acting tough he will gain popularity. It will make no difference to the number of cases in the UK. How many cases have there been amongst those who have returned?
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I'm working on it
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Sorry Keith, I guess I was mislead by QB quoting exactly identical theories to yours. Anyway you're both totally wrong.Onelife wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 14:33Everybody rubbishes my theories John, but on this occasion, what you are referring to wasn’t my theory.towny44 wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 13:48BBC one o'clock news rubbished your theory Keefie, they agreed with the need for current quarantine restrictions, and confirmed that despite the apparent increasing cases in the UK this is entirely due to the increased testing of the hotspots, and the ONS stats show that cases in the UK have stabilised. Maybe you need to revise your theories.Quizzical Bob wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 12:18
No, Merv, you are way off the mark.
France is much safer then the UK if you are not in the age range 20-40 and you avoid the nightspots of Paris and Marseille. It is an enormous country with wide a low population density.
France has increased the number of tests enormously so it is no surprise that they find more cases. They also include their overseas territories in their figures. As always the devil is in the detail.
This quarantine nonsense is a political act of vindictiveness and spitefulness by a Prime Minister who likes to think that by acting tough he will gain popularity. It will make no difference to the number of cases in the UK. How many cases have there been amongst those who have returned?
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Has anybody ever seen them both in the same room?towny44 wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 14:52Sorry Keith, I guess I was mislead by QB quoting exactly identical theories to yours. Anyway you're both totally wrong.Onelife wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 14:33Everybody rubbishes my theories John, but on this occasion, what you are referring to wasn’t my theory.towny44 wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 13:48
BBC one o'clock news rubbished your theory Keefie, they agreed with the need for current quarantine restrictions, and confirmed that despite the apparent increasing cases in the UK this is entirely due to the increased testing of the hotspots, and the ONS stats show that cases in the UK have stabilised. Maybe you need to revise your theories.
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BBC News says " South Korea sees 324 new cases of coronavirus, its highest single day total since March, with most cases traced to churches "
Given that we have similar spikes in the North West could the Church, rather than Boris, be the cause here too ?
Given that we have similar spikes in the North West could the Church, rather than Boris, be the cause here too ?
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I thought it was a No No , to talk about , Politics, Religion and Football.?
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More likely by a returning Brit or a businessman or by a student.barney wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 14:31Germany have very specifically put their increase in covid cases down to returning holiday makers.
The virus was spread by international travel.
It didn’t swim here, it came in and was passed on by a returning tourist.
Until people can get it through their thick sculls that international travel will continue to spread the virus, we will be in a permanent state of flux.
Safer in France?
Safer in Croatia?
Yeah ! Right!
You really must get used to the idea that this virus is here to stay and cannot be eradicated by hiding behind your front door.
Incidentally, Fred Hoyle and others believed that viruses are spread by cosmic dust arriving from space and it’s not an easy theory to disprove although as far as Covid-19 is concerned my money’s on a certain laboratory in Wuhan.
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It was a returning British tourist QB coming back from a skiing holiday.
I’m cool with coping with the virus and have been advocating a two tier system for some time with the over 70s and vulnerable staying in as much as possible to protect the health service.
But , to make out any other country is safer when the facts disprove that makes no sense and maybe just fits your rather unusual narrative of thinking things are better elsewhere.
I was talking to a lady yesterday who is a Francophile and was telling me how bad things are here and how good it is there.
When I asked her why she was here instead of there then, she was lost for an answer.
She did also say that she was moving to France a few years back due to Brexit, but guess what ?
Yep, she’s still here.
Maybe after January with a bit of luck?
I’m cool with coping with the virus and have been advocating a two tier system for some time with the over 70s and vulnerable staying in as much as possible to protect the health service.
But , to make out any other country is safer when the facts disprove that makes no sense and maybe just fits your rather unusual narrative of thinking things are better elsewhere.
I was talking to a lady yesterday who is a Francophile and was telling me how bad things are here and how good it is there.
When I asked her why she was here instead of there then, she was lost for an answer.
She did also say that she was moving to France a few years back due to Brexit, but guess what ?
Yep, she’s still here.
Maybe after January with a bit of luck?
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Going off topic but the granddaughters partner has just returned from 10 days of maintenance on Azura.He said there is a very wide crack on deck 14 which is too wide to weld, reckons she will need to go to dry dock. He was told it’s something like £10000 a day in dock.! Can they afford it at this time.?
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Bit of Araldite will sort it.
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I'll fix it for £5000 a day, they provide the sand and cement
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We were on Ventura when a similar thing happened.... Not as bendy as we hope...... Fixed it with Polyfillascrewy wrote: 21 Aug 2020, 16:27Going off topic but the granddaughters partner has just returned from 10 days of maintenance on Azura.He said there is a very wide crack on deck 14 which is too wide to weld, reckons she will need to go to dry dock. He was told it’s something like £10000 a day in dock.! Can they afford it at this time.?
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