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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 16:41
The problem will again be most seen in multi-generational homes, of which there are more in Ethnic Minority Communities and in poorer areas. So of course this will again be reported as some sort of discrimination by government against these groups. Whereas those living in those home should be urging their young people particularly to take greater care.

The media might try and paint this picture but I think most people are sensible enough to understand that multi-generational homes are more susceptible… once the media get it off their chests the story will have a short sell by date one would have thought.


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And if we can blame somebody else we might be able to claim compensation (Whose got the forms)

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Clophill4 wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 19:11
And if we can blame somebody else we might be able to claim compensation (Whose got the forms)
:lol: You've got the hang of this cruising lark :lol:


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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 20:18
Clophill4 wrote: 22 Aug 2020, 19:11
And if we can blame somebody else we might be able to claim compensation (Whose got the forms)
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Merv has a few forms but run the warehouse :D

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I was reading that the organisers of "The Proms" don't intend to preform "Rule Britannia & Land of Hope and Glory" as the conductor for this year is a supporter of BLM and some think it's jingoistic so no flag waving allowed if you watch it on TV :(

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The world has truly gone mad...
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If that is true and not fake news they should get another conductor. Anybody who lives in this country, of whatever colour or Ethnic origin should respect our culture and traditions.

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Happydays wrote: 23 Aug 2020, 16:00
I was reading that the organisers of "The Proms" don't intend to preform "Rule Britannia & Land of Hope and Glory" as the conductor for this year is a supporter of BLM and some think it's jingoistic so no flag waving allowed if you watch it on TV :(
If this is true then I hope he enjoys conducting to an all-black orchestra and an all black audience because I for one would be asking for my ticket money back if they/ he /she are allowed to get away with this.

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I read it in the Evening Standard on line. Conductor Delia Stasevska is in favour of cutting Rule Britannia and land of Hope and Glory.
A BBC source told the "Times" Dalia is a big supporter of BLM.
BBC columnist Richard Morrison called for TH & LofHandG to be scrapped saying it would be insensitive in the wake of BLM😠

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 23 Aug 2020, 17:06
If that is true and not fake news they should get another conductor. Anybody who lives in this country, of whatever colour or Ethnic origin should respect our culture and traditions.
Unfortunately Sir Merv I've lost all sense of what our culture and traditions are anymore :(

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Apparently we have to dump all we cared about and go down one knee in memory of a black criminal.

I've never been racist but I fear all this will turn to into one.

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I won't be hear to see how it all this pans out but unless we open our eyes to how and whence this all started there can be no solution to the problems.

We are accepting of our diversity but diversity has a way of pulling its self apart. :think:

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Onelife wrote: 23 Aug 2020, 22:40
I won't be hear to see how it all this pans out but unless we open our eyes to how and whence this all started there can be no solution to the problems.

We are accepting of our diversity but diversity has a way of pulling its self apart. :think:
But going back into antiquity and trying to judge 200/300 year old actions against modern day morals is not the way either. A little quiet reflection from all sides of the argument is needed, unfortunately the zealots are never going to let that happen.
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towny44 wrote: 23 Aug 2020, 22:55
Onelife wrote: 23 Aug 2020, 22:40
I won't be hear to see how it all this pans out but unless we open our eyes to how and whence this all started there can be no solution to the problems.

We are accepting of our diversity but diversity has a way of pulling its self apart. :think:
But going back into antiquity and trying to judge 200/300 year old actions against modern day morals is not the way either. A little quiet reflection from all sides of the argument is needed, unfortunately the zealots are never going to let that happen.
You don’t have to turn the clock back that far John; 60/70 years would have been sufficient to see where all this started going wrong. In accepting we are now a multicultural island we also have to accept the rules of equality must apply to all and this to a more or lesser extent where it all started going wrong imo.

For what it’s worth I don’t subscribe to the “we can all live happily ever after multicultural experiment" and feel quite sad that our indigenous culture has all but disappeared, this however doesn’t mean I can’t love thou neighbour irrespective of their race, greed or colour it just means the experiment didn’t work in a society where diversity drives us apart further and further apart.

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Onelife wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 09:52
towny44 wrote: 23 Aug 2020, 22:55
Onelife wrote: 23 Aug 2020, 22:40
I won't be hear to see how it all this pans out but unless we open our eyes to how and whence this all started there can be no solution to the problems.

We are accepting of our diversity but diversity has a way of pulling its self apart. :think:
But going back into antiquity and trying to judge 200/300 year old actions against modern day morals is not the way either. A little quiet reflection from all sides of the argument is needed, unfortunately the zealots are never going to let that happen.
You don’t have to turn the clock back that far John; 60/70 years would have been sufficient to see where all this started going wrong. In accepting we are now a multicultural island we also have to accept the rules of equality must apply to all and this to a more or lesser extent where it all started going wrong imo.

For what it’s worth I don’t subscribe to the “we can all live happily ever after multicultural experiment" and feel quite sad that our indigenous culture has all but disappeared, this however doesn’t mean I can’t love thou neighbour irrespective of their race, greed or colour it just means the experiment didn’t work in a society where diversity drives us apart further and further apart.
So do you have a solution, is there a way to provide equality without throwing away our history, if not what do you consider the outcome will be?
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i'll have to get back to you on that one John because I've ear marked the rest of the day for flat hunting

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Onelife wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 09:59
i'll have to get back to you on that one John because I've ear marked the rest of the day for flat hunting
Tally ho old boy!! I wouldn't have put you in the hunting set but wish you well!! :thumbup: :wave:
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oldbluefox wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 11:24
Onelife wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 09:59
i'll have to get back to you on that one John because I've ear marked the rest of the day for flat hunting
Tally ho old boy!! I wouldn't have put you in the hunting set but wish you well!! :thumbup: :wave:
Nor me, I just assumed the old chap had been turfed out of the family home :o
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I have just read something else that I find incredible. Did you realise that if you use a full stop in a social media or email communication a young person will interpret this as a sign of anger? Apparently Linguistic experts are now investigating why this is so. A writer is quoted as saying, 'Older people - do you realise that ending a sentence with a full stop comes across as sort of abrupt and unfriendly to younger people in an email/chat?' A 16 year old says that if he got a message with full stops at the end of sentences he'd think the sender was "weird, mean or too blunt".'

Whatever next! As far as the debacle over 'Last Night of the Proms' is concerned, the Promenarders are already in action. Hope they succeed.

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Manoverboard wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 12:02
oldbluefox wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 11:24
Onelife wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 09:59
i'll have to get back to you on that one John because I've ear marked the rest of the day for flat hunting
Tally ho old boy!! I wouldn't have put you in the hunting set but wish you well!! :thumbup: :wave:
Nor me, I just assumed the old chap had been turfed out of the family home :o
She's seen the light at last :D

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CaroleF wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 12:36
I have just read something else that I find incredible. Did you realise that if you use a full stop in a social media or email communication a young person will interpret this as a sign of anger? Apparently Linguistic experts are now investigating why this is so. A writer is quoted as saying, 'Older people - do you realise that ending a sentence with a full stop comes across as sort of abrupt and unfriendly to younger people in an email/chat?' A 16 year old says that if he got a message with full stops at the end of sentences he'd think the sender was "weird, mean or too blunt".'
I have heard that before somewhere but never taken much notice of it. Not sure what they would think of ...

... being in an email.

I can, to some extent, understand not using full stops with the likes of Twitter where there is a limit on the number of characters that you can use - but in an email :thumbdown: :thumbdown: Perhaps while these young people have been at home for the last six months they could have spent some time constructively learning English grammar :thumbup:

One thing is for sure - if any of them manage to get to Uni they will soon learn how to use a full stop.

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We had need to go to Bournemouth yesterday to a trade show, buying for summer 21.

We had genuinely forgotten how busy and congested England has become.
We’ve been in North Devon mode for so long now that I found it a bit difficult to cope with the traffic.
How I ever lived in London for so long escapes me.
We couldn’t wait to see the sign on the A361 saying welcome to North Devon and it started drizzling 😂
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We always take the ' Country Roads ' route as the duration of one's ;) journey is no longer of importance.
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towny44 wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 09:55
Onelife wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 09:52
towny44 wrote: 23 Aug 2020, 22:55

But going back into antiquity and trying to judge 200/300 year old actions against modern day morals is not the way either. A little quiet reflection from all sides of the argument is needed, unfortunately the zealots are never going to let that happen.
You don’t have to turn the clock back that far John; 60/70 years would have been sufficient to see where all this started going wrong. In accepting we are now a multicultural island we also have to accept the rules of equality must apply to all and this to a more or lesser extent where it all started going wrong imo.

For what it’s worth I don’t subscribe to the “we can all live happily ever after multicultural experiment" and feel quite sad that our indigenous culture has all but disappeared, this however doesn’t mean I can’t love thou neighbour irrespective of their race, greed or colour it just means the experiment didn’t work in a society where diversity drives us apart further and further apart.
So do you have a solution, is there a way to provide equality without throwing away our history, if not what do you consider the outcome will be?
I think the solution starts when you establish whether or not there is a problem…I don’t think governments past and present have really wanted to face up to what I believe is a problem of growing divisions within our multicultural society.

If there is a solution to be had it will only happen when we can all truly come together in accepting that inequalities do exist…however, what I see is a country divided by an inequality derived from segregation of different cultures, cultures, which it has to be said, are reluctant to show any compromise of their own cultural identity for that of others…including that of the indigenous culture.

As you know I’m good at predictions :) and although I won’t be around to see if I am right or wrong … I believe in twenty/ thirty years’ time our cultural heritage will be reduced to that of just another ethnic group within a myriad of other ethnic groups…. only the strongest will survive.

Oop’s…I haven’t given you a solution…hmm! let’s start off with education… future generations should be taught in teaching environments void of religious doctrine…. e.g. close all religious based schools. This way children will be more accepting of a secular society.

I can see nothing changing until we make a commitment to upping the standards of some of our worst cess pits areas in which some have no option but to live.

Anyway the above should give you a few angles in which to tell me where I’m wrong…which as we both know is what you intended…. over to you. :wave:
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