Life After Brexit

[Onelife]

All of them, start again without talking to people like imbeciles..
Not you Mob.

Hey!...hold on a minute Screwy...did you not see the post from foxy where he agrees with onelife .....anyone caught trying to dete it will face my wrath

[johnds]

Ken

I am begining to think your derogatry remarks about others with a different view are becoming offensive

[Manoverboard]

... The only offensive bit is the 2 sentences in barneys post 308 I had previously highlighted (inc my reference to it in 309), because it was a personal attack in violation of the board rules (ie. '... you and ...' followed by what could be construed as a sectarian comment). I have no issue with anything else apart from your criticism of my comments which were clearly aimed at the post not the poster (i.e. 'the stupidity of your statement' and 'such childish comments).

Otherwise, getting rid of the chaf would probably mean 310, 312, 313, 315, 320, 327 and 329 should also go).

and add this post to your list to be deleted.

Ok, will do ....couple of points however.

When I initially read #308 I read it as ' protester ' which obviously wasn't, for me anyway, an issue. It is only after re-reading it that I can actually see where you were coming from. That was an an oversight on my part but in spite of your reservations you should have reported it. My critisism of your use of comments to fellow Members like childish and stupidity etc stand as they are violations of Forum Rules, they are believed by the Members to be aimed at themselves rather than at the text within the post. I presently agree with their view so would request that you tone it down.

[Onelife]

Ken

I am begining to think your derogatry remarks about others with a different view are becoming offensive

It'll be all hugs and kisses tomorrow....l've seen a lot worse comments on this forum ..Oops! Sorry for any offence caused

[Kendhni]

Ken

I am begining to think your derogatry remarks about others with a different view are becoming offensive

Oh good, new meat

[Kendhni]

... The only offensive bit is the 2 sentences in barneys post 308 I had previously highlighted (inc my reference to it in 309), because it was a personal attack in violation of the board rules (ie. '... you and ...' followed by what could be construed as a sectarian comment). I have no issue with anything else apart from your criticism of my comments which were clearly aimed at the post not the poster (i.e. 'the stupidity of your statement' and 'such childish comments).

Otherwise, getting rid of the chaf would probably mean 310, 312, 313, 315, 320, 327 and 329 should also go).

and add this post to your list to be deleted.

Ok, will do ....couple of points however.

When I initially read #308 I read it as ' protester ' which obviously wasn't, for me anyway, an issue. It is only after re-reading it that I can actually see where you were coming from. That was an an oversight on my part but in spite of your reservations you should have reported it. My critisism of your use of comments to fellow Members like childish and stupidity etc stand as they are violations of Forum Rules, they are believed by the Members to be aimed at themselves rather than at the text within the post. I presently agree with their view so would request that you tone it down.

I trust you have applied equal moderation to others and told them to tone it down.

[Onelife]

... The only offensive bit is the 2 sentences in barneys post 308 I had previously highlighted (inc my reference to it in 309), because it was a personal attack in violation of the board rules (ie. '... you and ...' followed by what could be construed as a sectarian comment). I have no issue with anything else apart from your criticism of my comments which were clearly aimed at the post not the poster (i.e. 'the stupidity of your statement' and 'such childish comments).

Otherwise, getting rid of the chaf would probably mean 310, 312, 313, 315, 320, 327 and 329 should also go).

and add this post to your list to be deleted.

Ok, will do ....couple of points however.

When I initially read #308 I read it as ' protester ' which obviously wasn't, for me anyway, an issue. It is only after re-reading it that I can actually see where you were coming from. That was an an oversight on my part but in spite of your reservations you should have reported it. My critisism of your use of comments to fellow Members like childish and stupidity etc stand as they are violations of Forum Rules, they are believed by the Members to be aimed at themselves rather than at the text within the post. I presently agree with their view so would request that you tone it down.

I trust you have applied equal moderation to others and told them to tone it down.

On that point Ken......l can assure you that he has.....l still haven't forgiven him

[towny44]

There is a slight difference in that those that prophesised economical issues spent a lot of time and effort putting in place what was needed to stop their prophecies from coming true. On the other hand those responsible for messages like £350million per week to the health service' are now trying to sweep them under the carpet.

Ken, the job of the B of E is to ensure a stable economy within the parameters set by the govt., so they would have only been doing what they were paid to do, they were never going above and beyond that brief.

I agree to a certain degree, but the referendum result meant that they were forced into the position of having to take direct action to stop a run on the pound and protect the economy. This included various 'guarantor' announcements and QE. Some would say that the action they took is what mitigated the impact to our economy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15198789

If the predictions had been as dire as some thought, then it would have caused the B of E far more problems, let's hope if there is a no deal that the same thing happens.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Ken

I am begining to think your derogatry remarks about others with a different view are becoming offensive

It'll be all hugs and kisses tomorrow....l've seen a lot worse comments on this forum ..Oops! Sorry for any offence caused

I'm not kissing you. You're not in my 6.

[Onelife]

Ken

I am begining to think your derogatry remarks about others with a different view are becoming offensive

It'll be all hugs and kisses tomorrow....l've seen a lot worse comments on this forum ..Oops! Sorry for any offence caused

I'm not kissing you. You're not in my 6.

It won't last forever Sir Merv.....do beards tickle?

[screwy]

Dissapointed OL, drove past Ludlow Saturday morning, you didn't come out to give me a wave...

[Onelife]

Dissapointed OL, drove past Ludlow Saturday morning, you didn't come out to give me a wave...

You should have PMed me... With a slight detour you could have got a bacon sarnie, cuppa ... and a wave goodbye

[Stephen]

Dissapointed OL, drove past Ludlow Saturday morning, you didn't come out to give me a wave...

You should have PMed me... With a slight detour you could have got a bacon sarnie, cuppa ... and a wave goodbye

........and a hefty bill

[Kendhni]

Ken, the job of the B of E is to ensure a stable economy within the parameters set by the govt., so they would have only been doing what they were paid to do, they were never going above and beyond that brief.

I agree to a certain degree, but the referendum result meant that they were forced into the position of having to take direct action to stop a run on the pound and protect the economy. This included various 'guarantor' announcements and QE. Some would say that the action they took is what mitigated the impact to our economy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15198789

If the predictions had been as dire as some thought, then it would have caused the B of E far more problems, let's hope if there is a no deal that the same thing happens.

I think having to spend £70bn on the first day was a significant hit (almost 3% of GDP with zero return) - the costs have gone up significantly since then.

Over the past couple of years the government had been stockpiling in preparation for brexit, this also meant the BoE trying to drift interest rates up to give them some wriggle room. However, COVID has apparently seriously depleted the stock piles and interest rates have pretty much hit zero, with some banks now going to negative interest rates (with more likely to follow). COVID has also caused an additional £300bn of QE (although it is possible that some of that is being added to the brexit war chest).

I am not sure that the BoE has any wriggle room left beyond manufacturing more money and pushing our QE total well above the trillion mark. It will be interesting to see how the next couple of generations will take that, given they are the ones that will probably have to pay it back.

The governments manifesto contained the promise "We will not raise the rate of income tax, VAT or National Insurance." - I think they will have no choice (COVID being a convenient excuse/reason). Such a high level of QE and bond pricing means the government may struggle to meet future pension agreements. Some think tanks are therefore looking at ways of extracting the money from where it is (the over 50's hold something like 80% of the wealth in this country) - this has led to some reports that consideration is being given to means testing all state pensions and recouping additional money from new and existing annuities (possibly through a new tax) rather than increasing the tax burden on the next generation - that sort of seems fair (he says through gritted teeth).

[Manoverboard]

I trust you have applied equal moderation to others and told them to tone it down.

Moderation on this site has always ' aimed ' at maintaining harmony, regardless of who the Member may be.
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[Onelife]

Dissapointed OL, drove past Ludlow Saturday morning, you didn't come out to give me a wave...

You should have PMed me... With a slight detour you could have got a bacon sarnie, cuppa ... and a wave goodbye

........and a hefty bill

We call them "big tips" in this neck of the woods

[Stephen]

Big what.....

[Ray Scully]

Some think tanks are therefore looking at ways of extracting the money from where it is (the over 50's hold something like 80% of the wealth in this country) - this has led to some reports that consideration is being given to means testing all state pensions and recouping additional money from new and existing annuities (possibly through a new tax) rather than increasing the tax burden on the next generation - that sort of seems fair (he says through gritted teeth).

Ken chatting with grandson who is reading economic, this would seem a real possible outcome. For the likes of him, he would get a hit if our estate is further taxed, but if not he will still end up paying the tax bill down the line. I personally am always bemused by my fellow baby boomers crying foul at any attempt to further tax their property on their demise. In most cases I know, it was in ours, we were able to increase our property values from a tad under 4K to, well! talking in percentage of a million. NOT by being particularly clever, but by purely by living through a long period which supported the rise in property prices, at times exponentially, Accordingly I don't have a problem with some of the 'windfall' being taxed on our demise.

[Frank Manning]

Dont forget the issue of fishing in UK waters. A lot of fishermen voted for brexit in order to get the EU super trawlers out of our waters. They are going to be pretty disillusioned if we roll over and give them what they have now. Sorry I have not been on line for a while, I have hypothyroidism and a pititary maco denoma to worry about. So brexit is the least of my concerns now.

[Onelife]

Dont forget the issue of fishing in UK waters. A lot of fishermen voted for brexit in order to get the EU super trawlers out of our waters. They are going to be pretty disillusioned if we roll over and give them what they have now. Sorry I have not been on line for a while, I have hypothyroidism and a pititary maco denoma to worry about. So brexit is the least of my concerns now.

Agree Frank. The way these super trawlers work there’ll be no fish left to argue over.

Here’s wishing you well for your ongoing treatment

[barney]

Fishing is easily solvable.
To smooth a deal out, the U.K. agree the status quo for one calendar year, to give chance for negotiation, similar to the arrangement that the Eu have with other countries.
It then gives us chance to pass in law, the maximum size ship that can fish U.K. territorial waters.
Currently, the EU will not discuss any change and want continuity as it is now, forever.
That’s clearly unacceptable.
They are currently saying all or nothing.
Common sense is needed or they may end up with nothing.
Our fishermen need the Eu market, they need U.K. water.
Surely a compromise can be found?

[Manoverboard]

How about we Brits eat all the lovely fish that we've been selling to Carlos Vigoman these past umpteen years.

[barney]

How about we Brits eat all the lovely fish that we've been selling to Carlos Vigoman these past umpteen years.

Because......... it makes your house smell ?

[Manoverboard]

It doesn't smell if you use fresh straight out of the sea type fish ... as you would know of course

[barney]

We often buy Appledore mussels but I get the fish guy to do the work, cleaning etc.
A lovely bit of fast food.
Minutes from pot to plate