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I have simple solutions to all 3 problem areas.

We take full control of our fishing waters, issuing of licences and allocation of quotas. But we can't rebuild our fishing fleet overnight. So we agree to take back no more than 20% of licences and quota each year.

We will be on common standards on day 1 of our departure. So we have zero tariffs and no need for complex checks. Simple paperwork. After that we and the EU both have the right to vary our standards but will give notice to the other side. If they or we don't wish to adopt the others changes they and we have the right to impose a tariff or conditions or checks on the specific goods affected.

We set up a new joint arbitration court to adjudicate any differences with 50% judges from the EU and 50% from the UK. Chairman to alternate annually.

Now if neither side intends to play dirty what's wrong with that? And any divergence will be slow and steady.

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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 19:49
I have simple solutions to all 3 problem areas.

We take full control of our fishing waters, issuing of licences and allocation of quotas. But we can't rebuild our fishing fleet overnight. So we agree to take back no more than 20% of licences and quota each year.

We will be on common standards on day 1 of our departure. So we have zero tariffs and no need for complex checks. Simple paperwork. After that we and the EU both have the right to vary our standards but will give notice to the other side. If they or we don't wish to adopt the others changes they and we have the right to impose a tariff or conditions or checks on the specific goods affected.

We set up a new joint arbitration court to adjudicate any differences with 50% judges from the EU and 50% from the UK. Chairman to alternate annually.

Now if neither side intends to play dirty what's wrong with that? And any divergence will be slow and steady.
Nothing as far as my grasp of things go but there has to be seen to be pain for gain otherwise they’ll all be at it.

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The daft thing is we and they can argue who loses most out of no deal. But the reality is everyone loses. Refusing to do a sensible deal for political reasons, for either side, would be cutting off nose to spite face. To me the fact they're still talking means both sides know that. And there's no point in talking on unless the negotiators have been given fresh instructions.
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 21:10
The daft thing is we and they can argue who loses most out of no deal. But the reality is everyone loses. Refusing to do a sensible deal for political reasons, for either side, would be cutting off nose to spite face. To me the fact they're still talking means both sides know that. And there's no point in talking on unless the negotiators have been given fresh instructions.
Let us all hope you're right Merv, but just in case maybe you should forward your proposal to Boris and Ursula and let them know that the Cruise-Community negotiating teams are willing to take over the negotiations.
Ahhh but hang on a minute we leavers have not been able to agree with the remainers of our forum on almost any subject since 2016, so just maybe there is insufficient common ground to secure an agreement, shucks too bad!!!!
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So shoppers are being told not to stockpile ahead of January - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55293595

That is a sure-fire way to make people stockpile - however as Christmas is looming isn't that what everyone does anyway?

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david63 wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 21:24
So shoppers are being told not to stockpile ahead of January - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55293595

That is a sure-fire way to make people stockpile - however as Christmas is looming isn't that what everyone does anyway?
Since the main shortages are likely to be salad items and fruit, there's not much point stockpiling lettuce and tomatoes even if you have dozens of fridges. However minced beef, which in the supermarkets seems to be mainly from Ireland might be worth considering.
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david63 wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 21:24
So shoppers are being told not to stockpile ahead of January - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55293595

That is a sure-fire way to make people stockpile - however as Christmas is looming isn't that what everyone does anyway?
People are seeking counselling already when they heard some supermarkets won't open on Boxing Day!

But I agree. Exactly my reaction when I saw that headline.

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There are certain keywords which send some people into apoplexy. They need to calm themselves down.
(except when it's a football match!!)
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There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves. :thumbup:

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Well that's okay then. :clap:

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Onelife wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:14
There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves. :thumbup:
The Sage of Shropshire has spoken, and all will be well for the New Year. :sarcasm: :clap:
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Onelife wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:14
There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves. :thumbup:
And if all else fails we will all be able to live off Keefy's stale chocolates as he has been stockpiling them for years (not actually stockpiling - just unable to offload them) :lol: :lol: :lol:

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david63 wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:41
Onelife wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:14
There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves. :thumbup:
And if all else fails we will all be able to live off Keefy's stale chocolates as he has been stockpiling them for years (not actually stockpiling - just unable to offload them) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Don't be suprised if you start receiving hate mail after that comment David :lol:

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towny44 wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:39
Onelife wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:14
There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves. :thumbup:
The Sage of Shropshire has spoken, and all will be well for the New Year. :sarcasm: :clap:
Shropshire bookies rarely get it wrong John so if you have a spare £600 to win £400 the odds of 4/6 look pretty tempting in a two horse race.

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towny44 wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:39
Onelife wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:14
There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves. :thumbup:
The Sage of Shropshire has spoken, and all will be well for the New Year. :sarcasm: :clap:
If my pack of Sage doesn't arrive tomorrow I will know why ... thanks for starting a sage panic buy :roll:
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I believe that we should control the fish 100% and not add any additional charges to those exported from UK ports to the EU for three years max, meanwhile we offer future consultation on quotas going forward.

Also NO involvement at all regarding EU judgements and courts. I would agree to compliance with their rules 'n' regs for items that are to be exported into LaLaLand otherwise we do whatever we wish to.
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 19:49
I have simple solutions to all 3 problem areas.

We take full control of our fishing waters, issuing of licences and allocation of quotas. But we can't rebuild our fishing fleet overnight. So we agree to take back no more than 20% of licences and quota each year.

We will be on common standards on day 1 of our departure. So we have zero tariffs and no need for complex checks. Simple paperwork. After that we and the EU both have the right to vary our standards but will give notice to the other side. If they or we don't wish to adopt the others changes they and we have the right to impose a tariff or conditions or checks on the specific goods affected.

We set up a new joint arbitration court to adjudicate any differences with 50% judges from the EU and 50% from the UK. Chairman to alternate annually.

Now if neither side intends to play dirty what's wrong with that? And any divergence will be slow and steady.
Do you want Mr Barnier's telephone number? Seems good to me and I'm surprised Keefy's tea leaves haven't already predicted something along these lines.
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oldbluefox wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 11:39
Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 19:49
I have simple solutions to all 3 problem areas.

We take full control of our fishing waters, issuing of licences and allocation of quotas. But we can't rebuild our fishing fleet overnight. So we agree to take back no more than 20% of licences and quota each year.

We will be on common standards on day 1 of our departure. So we have zero tariffs and no need for complex checks. Simple paperwork. After that we and the EU both have the right to vary our standards but will give notice to the other side. If they or we don't wish to adopt the others changes they and we have the right to impose a tariff or conditions or checks on the specific goods affected.

We set up a new joint arbitration court to adjudicate any differences with 50% judges from the EU and 50% from the UK. Chairman to alternate annually.

Now if neither side intends to play dirty what's wrong with that? And any divergence will be slow and steady.
Do you want Mr Barnier's telephone number? Seems good to me and I'm surprised Keefy's tea leaves haven't already predicted something along these lines.
Nudge nudge wink wink. You notice M. Barnier is now saying limited progress has been made. He got my text.

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He obviously knows Smurfy and has friends on Cruise Community. If the deal turns out anything like this we'll know where he got it from. Apparently the impasse on Brexit occurred when we offered him a box of Keefy's chocolates which he tried to pass on to Macron. Even Angela turned them down.
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oldbluefox wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 11:46
He obviously knows Smurfy and has friends on Cruise Community. If the deal turns out anything like this we'll know where he got it from. Apparently the impasse on Brexit occurred when we offered him a box of Keefy's chocolates which he tried to pass on to Macron. Even Angela turned them down.
Well then Foxy... “Qu'ils mangent de la brioche” :thumbup:

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Onelife wrote: 15 Dec 2020, 08:25
oldbluefox wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 11:46
He obviously knows Smurfy and has friends on Cruise Community. If the deal turns out anything like this we'll know where he got it from. Apparently the impasse on Brexit occurred when we offered him a box of Keefy's chocolates which he tried to pass on to Macron. Even Angela turned them down.
Well then Foxy... “Qu'ils mangent de la brioche” :thumbup:
..........................with Keefy's own make spread du chocolat moisi :thumbup:
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oldbluefox wrote: 15 Dec 2020, 09:14
Onelife wrote: 15 Dec 2020, 08:25
oldbluefox wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 11:46
He obviously knows Smurfy and has friends on Cruise Community. If the deal turns out anything like this we'll know where he got it from. Apparently the impasse on Brexit occurred when we offered him a box of Keefy's chocolates which he tried to pass on to Macron. Even Angela turned them down.
Well then Foxy... “Qu'ils mangent de la brioche” :thumbup:
..........................with Keefy's own make spread du chocolat moisi :thumbup:
They have a better chance of… "va te faire foutre" than getting any of keefy’s finest :D
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Sur le pont D'Avignon .... just saying :angel:
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Manoverboard wrote: 15 Dec 2020, 10:05
Sur le pont D'Avignon .... just saying :angel:
You sing I’ll dance…all together now…. Sur le pont…. :D .

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Why are the leavers talking French...traitors..😂😂
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