Life After Brexit
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Life After Brexit
I have simple solutions to all 3 problem areas.
We take full control of our fishing waters, issuing of licences and allocation of quotas. But we can't rebuild our fishing fleet overnight. So we agree to take back no more than 20% of licences and quota each year.
We will be on common standards on day 1 of our departure. So we have zero tariffs and no need for complex checks. Simple paperwork. After that we and the EU both have the right to vary our standards but will give notice to the other side. If they or we don't wish to adopt the others changes they and we have the right to impose a tariff or conditions or checks on the specific goods affected.
We set up a new joint arbitration court to adjudicate any differences with 50% judges from the EU and 50% from the UK. Chairman to alternate annually.
Now if neither side intends to play dirty what's wrong with that? And any divergence will be slow and steady.
We take full control of our fishing waters, issuing of licences and allocation of quotas. But we can't rebuild our fishing fleet overnight. So we agree to take back no more than 20% of licences and quota each year.
We will be on common standards on day 1 of our departure. So we have zero tariffs and no need for complex checks. Simple paperwork. After that we and the EU both have the right to vary our standards but will give notice to the other side. If they or we don't wish to adopt the others changes they and we have the right to impose a tariff or conditions or checks on the specific goods affected.
We set up a new joint arbitration court to adjudicate any differences with 50% judges from the EU and 50% from the UK. Chairman to alternate annually.
Now if neither side intends to play dirty what's wrong with that? And any divergence will be slow and steady.
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Onelife
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Re: Life After Brexit
Nothing as far as my grasp of things go but there has to be seen to be pain for gain otherwise they’ll all be at it.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 19:49I have simple solutions to all 3 problem areas.
We take full control of our fishing waters, issuing of licences and allocation of quotas. But we can't rebuild our fishing fleet overnight. So we agree to take back no more than 20% of licences and quota each year.
We will be on common standards on day 1 of our departure. So we have zero tariffs and no need for complex checks. Simple paperwork. After that we and the EU both have the right to vary our standards but will give notice to the other side. If they or we don't wish to adopt the others changes they and we have the right to impose a tariff or conditions or checks on the specific goods affected.
We set up a new joint arbitration court to adjudicate any differences with 50% judges from the EU and 50% from the UK. Chairman to alternate annually.
Now if neither side intends to play dirty what's wrong with that? And any divergence will be slow and steady.
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Life After Brexit
The daft thing is we and they can argue who loses most out of no deal. But the reality is everyone loses. Refusing to do a sensible deal for political reasons, for either side, would be cutting off nose to spite face. To me the fact they're still talking means both sides know that. And there's no point in talking on unless the negotiators have been given fresh instructions.
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towny44
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Re: Life After Brexit
Let us all hope you're right Merv, but just in case maybe you should forward your proposal to Boris and Ursula and let them know that the Cruise-Community negotiating teams are willing to take over the negotiations.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 21:10The daft thing is we and they can argue who loses most out of no deal. But the reality is everyone loses. Refusing to do a sensible deal for political reasons, for either side, would be cutting off nose to spite face. To me the fact they're still talking means both sides know that. And there's no point in talking on unless the negotiators have been given fresh instructions.
Ahhh but hang on a minute we leavers have not been able to agree with the remainers of our forum on almost any subject since 2016, so just maybe there is insufficient common ground to secure an agreement, shucks too bad!!!!
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david63
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Re: Life After Brexit
So shoppers are being told not to stockpile ahead of January - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55293595
That is a sure-fire way to make people stockpile - however as Christmas is looming isn't that what everyone does anyway?
That is a sure-fire way to make people stockpile - however as Christmas is looming isn't that what everyone does anyway?
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towny44
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Re: Life After Brexit
Since the main shortages are likely to be salad items and fruit, there's not much point stockpiling lettuce and tomatoes even if you have dozens of fridges. However minced beef, which in the supermarkets seems to be mainly from Ireland might be worth considering.david63 wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 21:24So shoppers are being told not to stockpile ahead of January - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55293595
That is a sure-fire way to make people stockpile - however as Christmas is looming isn't that what everyone does anyway?
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Life After Brexit
People are seeking counselling already when they heard some supermarkets won't open on Boxing Day!david63 wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 21:24So shoppers are being told not to stockpile ahead of January - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55293595
That is a sure-fire way to make people stockpile - however as Christmas is looming isn't that what everyone does anyway?
But I agree. Exactly my reaction when I saw that headline.
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oldbluefox
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Re: Life After Brexit
There are certain keywords which send some people into apoplexy. They need to calm themselves down.
(except when it's a football match!!)
(except when it's a football match!!)
I was taught to be cautious
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Onelife
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Re: Life After Brexit
There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves. 
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Life After Brexit
Well that's okay then. 
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towny44
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Re: Life After Brexit
The Sage of Shropshire has spoken, and all will be well for the New Year.Onelife wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:14There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves.![]()
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david63
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Re: Life After Brexit
And if all else fails we will all be able to live off Keefy's stale chocolates as he has been stockpiling them for years (not actually stockpiling - just unable to offload them)Onelife wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:14There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves.![]()
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Onelife
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Re: Life After Brexit
Don't be suprised if you start receiving hate mail after that comment Daviddavid63 wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:41And if all else fails we will all be able to live off Keefy's stale chocolates as he has been stockpiling them for years (not actually stockpiling - just unable to offload them)Onelife wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 09:14There'll be no shortages cos there'll be no hard Brexit....The stars are aligned as are the tea leaves.![]()
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Onelife
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Re: Life After Brexit
Shropshire bookies rarely get it wrong John so if you have a spare £600 to win £400 the odds of 4/6 look pretty tempting in a two horse race.
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Manoverboard
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Re: Life After Brexit
If my pack of Sage doesn't arrive tomorrow I will know why ... thanks for starting a sage panic buy
Keep smiling, it's good for your well being
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Manoverboard
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I believe that we should control the fish 100% and not add any additional charges to those exported from UK ports to the EU for three years max, meanwhile we offer future consultation on quotas going forward.
Also NO involvement at all regarding EU judgements and courts. I would agree to compliance with their rules 'n' regs for items that are to be exported into LaLaLand otherwise we do whatever we wish to.
Also NO involvement at all regarding EU judgements and courts. I would agree to compliance with their rules 'n' regs for items that are to be exported into LaLaLand otherwise we do whatever we wish to.
Keep smiling, it's good for your well being
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oldbluefox
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Re: Life After Brexit
Do you want Mr Barnier's telephone number? Seems good to me and I'm surprised Keefy's tea leaves haven't already predicted something along these lines.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 19:49I have simple solutions to all 3 problem areas.
We take full control of our fishing waters, issuing of licences and allocation of quotas. But we can't rebuild our fishing fleet overnight. So we agree to take back no more than 20% of licences and quota each year.
We will be on common standards on day 1 of our departure. So we have zero tariffs and no need for complex checks. Simple paperwork. After that we and the EU both have the right to vary our standards but will give notice to the other side. If they or we don't wish to adopt the others changes they and we have the right to impose a tariff or conditions or checks on the specific goods affected.
We set up a new joint arbitration court to adjudicate any differences with 50% judges from the EU and 50% from the UK. Chairman to alternate annually.
Now if neither side intends to play dirty what's wrong with that? And any divergence will be slow and steady.
I was taught to be cautious
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Mervyn and Trish
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Re: Life After Brexit
Nudge nudge wink wink. You notice M. Barnier is now saying limited progress has been made. He got my text.oldbluefox wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 11:39Do you want Mr Barnier's telephone number? Seems good to me and I'm surprised Keefy's tea leaves haven't already predicted something along these lines.Mervyn and Trish wrote: 13 Dec 2020, 19:49I have simple solutions to all 3 problem areas.
We take full control of our fishing waters, issuing of licences and allocation of quotas. But we can't rebuild our fishing fleet overnight. So we agree to take back no more than 20% of licences and quota each year.
We will be on common standards on day 1 of our departure. So we have zero tariffs and no need for complex checks. Simple paperwork. After that we and the EU both have the right to vary our standards but will give notice to the other side. If they or we don't wish to adopt the others changes they and we have the right to impose a tariff or conditions or checks on the specific goods affected.
We set up a new joint arbitration court to adjudicate any differences with 50% judges from the EU and 50% from the UK. Chairman to alternate annually.
Now if neither side intends to play dirty what's wrong with that? And any divergence will be slow and steady.
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oldbluefox
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He obviously knows Smurfy and has friends on Cruise Community. If the deal turns out anything like this we'll know where he got it from. Apparently the impasse on Brexit occurred when we offered him a box of Keefy's chocolates which he tried to pass on to Macron. Even Angela turned them down.
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Onelife
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Re: Life After Brexit
Well then Foxy... “Qu'ils mangent de la brioche”oldbluefox wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 11:46He obviously knows Smurfy and has friends on Cruise Community. If the deal turns out anything like this we'll know where he got it from. Apparently the impasse on Brexit occurred when we offered him a box of Keefy's chocolates which he tried to pass on to Macron. Even Angela turned them down.
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oldbluefox
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..........................with Keefy's own make spread du chocolat moisiOnelife wrote: 15 Dec 2020, 08:25Well then Foxy... “Qu'ils mangent de la brioche”oldbluefox wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 11:46He obviously knows Smurfy and has friends on Cruise Community. If the deal turns out anything like this we'll know where he got it from. Apparently the impasse on Brexit occurred when we offered him a box of Keefy's chocolates which he tried to pass on to Macron. Even Angela turned them down.![]()
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Onelife
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They have a better chance of… "va te faire foutre" than getting any of keefy’s finestoldbluefox wrote: 15 Dec 2020, 09:14..........................with Keefy's own make spread du chocolat moisiOnelife wrote: 15 Dec 2020, 08:25Well then Foxy... “Qu'ils mangent de la brioche”oldbluefox wrote: 14 Dec 2020, 11:46He obviously knows Smurfy and has friends on Cruise Community. If the deal turns out anything like this we'll know where he got it from. Apparently the impasse on Brexit occurred when we offered him a box of Keefy's chocolates which he tried to pass on to Macron. Even Angela turned them down.![]()
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Manoverboard
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Re: Life After Brexit
Sur le pont D'Avignon .... just saying 
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Onelife
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You sing I’ll dance…all together now…. Sur le pont….
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