Current Affairs

[Onelife]

I do sometimes wonder if I’m on a adult forum.

It’s not an adult site but you could try this one….

wwwStephenlovesspanking.uk

[oldbluefox]

Tom Tugendhat is the latest to be voted out of the race for Tory leadership. Not really surprised.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Nor me. Penny dropped a vote too but order of the remaining four unchanged.

A lot depends on who Tom's supporters swap to now.

[Kendhni]

Shame about Tugendhat, he was a far superior candidate to at least 2 of those left.

[Onelife]

I thought he conducted himself like an officer and a gentleman and will have gained a lot of respect for doing so.

Having pushed his view that the government needs a clean break one would hope he will push some votes in Mordaunt’s direction as she is advocating the same thing.

[screwy]

I do sometimes wonder if I’m on a adult forum.

It’s not an adult site but you could try this one….

wwwStephenlovesspanking.uk

I give up.

[Kendhni]

I thought he conducted himself like an officer and a gentleman and will have gained a lot of respect for doing so.

Having pushed his view that the government needs a clean break one would hope he will push some votes in Mordaunt’s direction as she is advocating the same thing.

The last thing this country needs is to keep bumbling along as it has been. Given Mordaunt's military background she will know the necessity of having a plan and a strategy ... although I am not sure she is going to win, which is a shame because I think she could bring much needed innovation and new ideas to the table.

[towny44]

The problem Mordaunt, and any woman PM has, is that she will always be compared to Maggie and, love her or hate her, she did command the respect of her ministers and world politicians. Theresa fell a long way short and I suspect Mordaunt and Truss will fare even worse.

[Onelife]

I thought he conducted himself like an officer and a gentleman and will have gained a lot of respect for doing so.

Having pushed his view that the government needs a clean break one would hope he will push some votes in Mordaunt’s direction as she is advocating the same thing.

The last thing this country needs is to keep bumbling along as it has been. Given Mordaunt's military background she will know the necessity of having a plan and a strategy ... although I am not sure she is going to win, which is a shame because I think she could bring much needed innovation and new ideas to the table.

I agree Ken, it looks like our Penny has been shafted left, right and centre and will struggle to make it to the final two. This leaves me wondering if there will be a mass exodus of party membership now, they have seen how the party machine works in removing what has been reported the candidate of their choice.

[oldbluefox]

I liked Tugendhat for his sincerity and honesty but I fear his lack of experience in high office would be a drawback as PM and his experience in Afghanistan and Iraq, honourable as it was, would not recompense.

I cannot say I have warmed to Kemi Badenoch who seems to be intent on attacking the other candidates rather than focussing on her own ideas.

[Onelife]

I liked Tugendhat for his sincerity and honesty but I fear his lack of experience in high office would be a drawback as PM and his experience in Afghanistan and Iraq, honourable as it was, would not recompense.

I cannot say I have warmed to Kemi Badenoch who seems to be intent on attacking the other candidates rather than focussing on her own ideas.

I’m of the same opinion Foxy, she seems to be quite calculated and behind her façade there lies an assassin.

[barney]

I thought he conducted himself like an officer and a gentleman and will have gained a lot of respect for doing so.

Having pushed his view that the government needs a clean break one would hope he will push some votes in Mordaunt’s direction as she is advocating the same thing.

The last thing this country needs is to keep bumbling along as it has been. Given Mordaunt's military background she will know the necessity of having a plan and a strategy ... although I am not sure she is going to win, which is a shame because I think she could bring much needed innovation and new ideas to the table.

I agree Ken, it looks like our Penny has been shafted left, right and centre and will struggle to make it to the final two. This leaves me wondering if there will be a mass exodus of party membership now, they have seen how the party machine works in removing what has been reported the candidate of their choice.

There won’t be any exodus Keefy.
It’s all about power.
Once it’s settled, they will all gather around the new PM whoever it is.
Labour struggle because many in the party are more interested in interfactional tribalism and points of policy and principle than actually winning power.
When I was a Labour member, I’ve walked out of meetings because they spent hours discussing Palestine instead of what’s happening up the road.
Starmer has made small gains on the back of not being Boris Johnson.
Now Johnson has gone, he’s got to come up with some clear blue water or we are destined to yet another Tory government.
My prediction is that IF there is a new manager bounce for the Tories, there will be an election in 2023.
I’m usually right where these things are concerned.
Of course, if they don’t get an uptick, then it will be dragged out to the last second.

[Mervyn and Trish]

I agree Barney. As a floating voter I like to see a strong credible opposition to give me choices at the next election. Corbyn definitely wasn't it. I was hopeful Sir H might be, especially when he was chosen and said he wasn't going to oppose for opposition's sake. But sadly in my view that's all he's done. He's not offered any vision of what a future might look like if he were PM. Other than not Boris. And now a Tory future is not Boris either I want something more tangible. And he's not it. At the end of the day it's not the party faithful on either side the parties have to appeal to, it is the middle ground floaters like me.

[Kendhni]

I thought he conducted himself like an officer and a gentleman and will have gained a lot of respect for doing so.

Having pushed his view that the government needs a clean break one would hope he will push some votes in Mordaunt’s direction as she is advocating the same thing.

The last thing this country needs is to keep bumbling along as it has been. Given Mordaunt's military background she will know the necessity of having a plan and a strategy ... although I am not sure she is going to win, which is a shame because I think she could bring much needed innovation and new ideas to the table.

I agree Ken, it looks like our Penny has been shafted left, right and centre and will struggle to make it to the final two. This leaves me wondering if there will be a mass exodus of party membership now, they have seen how the party machine works in removing what has been reported the candidate of their choice.

I am not convinced there will be a large exodus, the current bunch of tories (generally) seem to be totally out of touch with reality and the common man in the street. What we have had is a cabinet of multi-millionaires, many of which have no concept of, or have forgotten what it means, to have to work for a living. For the last few years it appears they have had little control over the country, poor-to-fair handling of COVID, good handling of the vaccine rollout ... they have, at best, half baked policies with no plan for the future.

I remain hopeful that the party faithful with realise that it is their current bumbling along that is their problem and elect someone who will drive the country forward and deliver what they say they will deliver. As I have said for years the battle is the middle ground .. whoever owns that will win the next election.

[Onelife]

My prediction is that if we end up with the same old a*se lickers…. ‘love him or hate him’ Starmer will win the next election.

I think the party membership along with the general public are getting fed up with the nod and a wink style of parliamentary shenanigans we have witnessed this past three years, and beyond, and are now looking for fresh faces to restore some credibility back into our abused parliamentary system.

[Kendhni]

My prediction is that if we end up with the same old a*se lickers…. ‘love him or hate him’ Starmer will win the next election.

Even for that I think Starmer will have to step up his game.

I think the party membership along with the general public are getting fed up with the nod and a wink style of parliamentary shenanigans we have witnessed this past three years, and beyond, and are now looking for fresh faces to restore some credibility back into our abused parliamentary system.

Without doubt the public is finally waking up to just how much they have been played as fools, and to a political leadership that is, at best, 'playing at politics'. New blood, new ideas, new thoughts, innovative thinking is what is required ... the old antiquated concepts of tinkering with tax codes and allowances is merely rearranging deck chairs. They have to get money moving around the economy.

[screwy]

[quote=oldbluefox post_id=324969 time=1658219574 user_id=244]
I liked Tugendhat for his sincerity and honesty but I fear his lack of experience in high office would be a drawback as PM and his experience in Afghanistan and Iraq, honourable as it was, would not recompense.

I cannot say I have warmed to Kemi Badenoch who seems to be intent on attacking the other candidates rather than focussing on her own ideas.
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I refer back to my posts 16307/16315.

[Kendhni]

This should not be allowed ... it borders on election fixing
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/boris-johnson ... 22414.html

Apparently Ellwood was unable to get back to the UK for the no confidence vote due to flight disruption. The justification for removing the whip was “Other Conservative MPs cancelled foreign trips, left poorly relatives, and one MP’s mother died on the morning of the vote, and still attended and voted.”.

Me thinks some people have their priorities totally wrong ... beyond that what did they want Ellwood to do, sprout wings and fly home?

[Onelife]

When has Boris ever had any regard for honest politics…he is a vindictive liar who will try and bring down anyone Carrie tells him to.

[david63]

I doubt that one vote would make any difference anyway - the worst it could do would make the result for second place a tie and I sure that there is something in the election rules that caters for that scenario.

Never liked Ellwood anyway!!

[barney]

They have been waiting to 'get him' for ages.

He's a fool really because whoever now takes over will also view him as hostile.

There's a time to keep your head down and stop bucking the system.
This is it.

He obviously thinks of himself as a bit of an intellectual.
I don't think he's read the room in this situation.

In my experience, I've come across many, many people who are convinced that they are intellectually superior but in realty, are buffoons.

[Manoverboard]

In my experience, I've come across many, many people who are convinced that they are intellectually superior but in realty, are buffoons.

I have shared your experiences ... many times during these past three years.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Kemi gone.

[Mervyn and Trish]

Rishi is almost a mathematical certainty now. Penny must be feeling twitchy. Her second place position is tight and after her spats with Kemi how likely is it she'll pick up her votes now she's out?

[Manoverboard]

I still say that the Tour De France is more interesting as a contest ...