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[Mervyn and Trish]

Yes of course he will. He earns all he needs to pay his bills by slagging off his family.

[Onelife]

Yes of course he will. He earns all he needs to pay his bills by slagging off his family.

The Royals to my knowledge don’t have NDA’s placed upon them so they are free to refute Harry’s claims at any time…they won’t of course...they know how truth hurts.

[towny44]

He says he is not doing it for the money. I presume any damages he receives will be donated to charity

I doubt it, he's obviously down on his uppers, he certainly rushed back from his brief 45 minutes with his Dad, so he could do his, presumably, paid presenting job at the NFL awards.

[Stephen]

He seems to flit from the US to the UK and back a bit lively. How’s he travelling, typhoon class.

[Slapstick]

Yes of course he will. He earns all he needs to pay his bills by slagging off his family.

The Royals to my knowledge don’t have NDA’s placed upon them so they are free to refute Harry’s claims at any time…they won’t of course...they know how truth hurts.

What is the truth Onelife?

I'm still yet to see any clear evidence that his blubberings to all and sundry are true, just because the royal family quite rightly decide not to comment it doesn't mean Harry's claims are true.

Unless of course you know different.

[Onelife]

Yes of course he will. He earns all he needs to pay his bills by slagging off his family.

The Royals to my knowledge don’t have NDA’s placed upon them so they are free to refute Harry’s claims at any time…they won’t of course...they know how truth hurts.

What is the truth Onelife?

I'm still yet to see any clear evidence that his blubberings to all and sundry are true, just because the royal family quite rightly decide not to comment it doesn't mean Harry's claims are true.

Unless of course you know different.

Hi Slapstick…truth is how one perceives it, I choose to believe most of what Harry has said about his freeloading family… while accepting die hard Royalists may have a different perception of what they believe to be the truth.

[Slapstick]

The Royals to my knowledge don’t have NDA’s placed upon them so they are free to refute Harry’s claims at any time…they won’t of course...they know how truth hurts.

What is the truth Onelife?

I'm still yet to see any clear evidence that his blubberings to all and sundry are true, just because the royal family quite rightly decide not to comment it doesn't mean Harry's claims are true.

Unless of course you know different.

Hi Slapstick…truth is how one perceives it, I choose to believe most of what Harry has said about his freeloading family… while accepting die hard Royalists may have a different perception of what they believe to be the truth.

Hi Onelife.

I'm far from a die hard royalist, but when you mention freeloading surely Harry fits that statement.

He's used his status as a royal and profited very well and continues to do so, I would be more tolerant towards him if he would only relinquish his royal title and go it alone like he claims he wants, but he won't and we should all know why.

[Onelife]

Hi Slapstick…. Prince Harry’s status is mostly due to his hereditary birth right which can’t just be removed because he has left the institution…it would take an act of parliament for this to happen, as would be the case if they got rid of the lot of them.

I see nothing wrong in him making a bob or two especially when set aside the obscene amounts of money other royals make through their status.

[oldbluefox]

He could just renounce his title and become plain Harry Windsor. Not sure why he enrolled his children into the club he despises so much except he knows the Americans just lurve a title.

If he was sincere about seeking to get away from the spotlight of publicity he sure does seem to be going about it in a very strange way. The truth is the only way he can earn money over there is to trade on his title and leech on his connection to the Royal Family. I cannot think of any skills he possesses which would earn him the money to keep him in the lifestyle he enjoys.

[Onelife]

He could just renounce his title and become plain Harry Windsor. Not sure why he enrolled his children into the club he despises so much except he knows the Americans just lurve a title.

If he was sincere about seeking to get away from the spotlight of publicity he sure does seem to be going about it in a very strange way. The truth is the only way he can earn money over there is to trade on his title and leech on his connection to the Royal Family. I cannot think of any skills he possesses which would earn him the money to keep him in the lifestyle he enjoys.

It must run in the family; Edward’s wife Sophie used her title to bolster up their earning potential… Andrew used his tile to satisfy his interest in young girls. Charles used his title to dish out titles for donations…..

[barney]

Hi Slapstick…. Prince Harry’s status is mostly due to his hereditary birth right which can’t just be removed because he has left the institution…it would take an act of parliament for this to happen, as would be the case if they got rid of the lot of them.

I see nothing wrong in him making a bob or two especially when set aside the obscene amounts of money other royals make through their status.

He could easily let it be known that in future, he’d like to be known simply as Harry Windsor.
His wife could be Meghan Windsor and his kids the same.
That wouldn’t need any acts of parliament.
It’s his choice.
I fully understand why he doesn’t.
In my opinion, he’d have no currency without his Royal title.
A chaps gotta make a dollar.

[Mervyn and Trish]

He could just renounce his title and become plain Harry Windsor. Not sure why he enrolled his children into the club he despises so much except he knows the Americans just lurve a title.

If he was sincere about seeking to get away from the spotlight of publicity he sure does seem to be going about it in a very strange way. The truth is the only way he can earn money over there is to trade on his title and leech on his connection to the Royal Family. I cannot think of any skills he possesses which would earn him the money to keep him in the lifestyle he enjoys.

It must run in the family; Edward’s wife Sophie used her title to bolster up their earning potential… Andrew used his tile to satisfy his interest in young girls. Charles used his title to dish out titles for donations…..

For someone so keen on abolishing the Monarchy you are unbelievably ignorant of how it actually works OL. A tedious job you are committed to 24 hours a day for life. You can't go anywhere without protection because nutters want to kill you. The media study your every move. You live mostly in relatively small flats in grand buildings owned by the state that are in practice your work place not your home. Every Tom, d**k and Harry has a view on who you can or can't marry and your sex life. You can't just nip to the pub, the theatre or the footie when you want. You have to be nice to people you detest.

No wonder Harry wanted out. Just a shame he hasn't actually gone.

[Onelife]

He could just renounce his title and become plain Harry Windsor. Not sure why he enrolled his children into the club he despises so much except he knows the Americans just lurve a title.

If he was sincere about seeking to get away from the spotlight of publicity he sure does seem to be going about it in a very strange way. The truth is the only way he can earn money over there is to trade on his title and leech on his connection to the Royal Family. I cannot think of any skills he possesses which would earn him the money to keep him in the lifestyle he enjoys.

It must run in the family; Edward’s wife Sophie used her title to bolster up their earning potential… Andrew used his tile to satisfy his interest in young girls. Charles used his title to dish out titles for donations…..

For someone so keen on abolishing the Monarchy you are unbelievably ignorant of how it actually works OL. A tedious job you are committed to 24 hours a day for life. You can't go anywhere without protection because nutters want to kill you. The media study your every move. You live mostly in relatively small flats in grand buildings owned by the state that are in practice your work place not your home. Every Tom, d**k and Harry has a view on who you can or can't marry and your sex life. You can't just nip to the pub, the theatre or the footie when you want. You have to be nice to people you detest.

No wonder Harry wanted out. Just a shame he hasn't actually gone.

Hi Sir Merv, what a complete waste of your time writing the above

You’ll have to excuse my ignorance, but what is the point you are making other than what is already public knowledge?

[towny44]

It must run in the family; Edward’s wife Sophie used her title to bolster up their earning potential… Andrew used his tile to satisfy his interest in young girls. Charles used his title to dish out titles for donations…..

For someone so keen on abolishing the Monarchy you are unbelievably ignorant of how it actually works OL. A tedious job you are committed to 24 hours a day for life. You can't go anywhere without protection because nutters want to kill you. The media study your every move. You live mostly in relatively small flats in grand buildings owned by the state that are in practice your work place not your home. Every Tom, d**k and Harry has a view on who you can or can't marry and your sex life. You can't just nip to the pub, the theatre or the footie when you want. You have to be nice to people you detest.

No wonder Harry wanted out. Just a shame he hasn't actually gone.

Hi Sir Merv, what a complete waste of your time writing the above

You’ll have to excuse my ignorance, but what is the point you are making other than what is already public knowledge?

Sorry OL but I for one am certainly not prepared to excuse your ignorance, when you have peppered this forum with your diatribes about your views of the wonderful Harry and Meghan versus the despicable remainder of the Royal family, without a shred of genuine evidence to support your tawdry insinuations.

[oldbluefox]

It must run in the family; Edward’s wife Sophie used her title to bolster up their earning potential… Andrew used his tile to satisfy his interest in young girls. Charles used his title to dish out titles for donations…..

I can understand you must have been compelled to dig around to come up with these so-called misdemeanours.
To clarify; Sophie Wessex was working in PR but on marriage to Edward it created a conflict of interest so she quit the business, hardly using it to bolster their earning potential, actually the opposite. Andrew got himself caught up in a right web of dubious, sexual activity but I'm not sure his royal title made any difference, He was just stupid, chose the wrong friends and I have no sympathy with him whatsoever.
You are partly correct in Charles using his title to dish out titles because that is exactly what he does. He does not decide on who gets what. Titles and honours are decided by the honours committee. It is the monarch's job (or his delegated representative) to actually present them. The Royal Family do use their influence, and presence, to raise donations, not for themselves but for the various charities they support.
The difference being that Harry Windsor uses his title to line his own pocket. Pity he also has to tell porkies to do it.

[Onelife]

For someone so keen on abolishing the Monarchy you are unbelievably ignorant of how it actually works OL. A tedious job you are committed to 24 hours a day for life. You can't go anywhere without protection because nutters want to kill you. The media study your every move. You live mostly in relatively small flats in grand buildings owned by the state that are in practice your work place not your home. Every Tom, d**k and Harry has a view on who you can or can't marry and your sex life. You can't just nip to the pub, the theatre or the footie when you want. You have to be nice to people you detest.

No wonder Harry wanted out. Just a shame he hasn't actually gone.

Hi Sir Merv, what a complete waste of your time writing the above

You’ll have to excuse my ignorance, but what is the point you are making other than what is already public knowledge?

Sorry OL but I for one am certainly not prepared to excuse your ignorance, when you have peppered this forum with your diatribes about your views of the wonderful Harry and Meghan versus the despicable remainder of the Royal family, without a shred of genuine evidence to support your tawdry insinuations.

Unfurtunatly John, while I remain a member of this forum you will either have to grim and bear it or not read it. Likewise, I have the choice to either read or not the disparaging, dare I say nasty remarks you and others have made against lovely Meghan and Harry. Your tawdry accusations are derived from spending to much time listening/reading the headline stories generated by people such as that nasty piece of work Piers Morgan and his equally despicable media colleagues. Whilst I do accept that some mistruths have been aired this, in my opinion has to be set against how Harry and Meghan believe they were treated by the firm, this eventually left them feeling they had no choice but to leave…thank gawd!

The simple fact is that Harry was born into the institution and for the sake of the longevity of the Monarchy you should hope it stays that way.

[Onelife]

It must run in the family; Edward’s wife Sophie used her title to bolster up their earning potential… Andrew used his tile to satisfy his interest in young girls. Charles used his title to dish out titles for donations…..

I can understand you must have been compelled to dig around to come up with these so-called misdemeanours.
To clarify; Sophie Wessex was working in PR but on marriage to Edward it created a conflict of interest so she quit the business, hardly using it to bolster their earning potential, actually the opposite. Andrew got himself caught up in a right web of dubious, sexual activity but I'm not sure his royal title made any difference, He was just stupid, chose the wrong friends and I have no sympathy with him whatsoever.
You are partly correct in Charles using his title to dish out titles because that is exactly what he does. He does not decide on who gets what. Titles and honours are decided by the honours committee. It is the monarch's job (or his delegated representative) to actually present them. The Royal Family do use their influence, and presence, to raise donations, not for themselves but for the various charities they support.
The difference being that Harry Windsor uses his title to line his own pocket. Pity he also has to tell porkies to do it.

Hi Foxy, While I may fall short in many aspects of my life my memory remains as sharp as it ever was, this being the case I rarely have to dig around trying to find Royal misdemeanours, of which there are many …. not to mention the ones where gagging orders have been threated against those who think they’ve caught a Royal with his trouser down, Oops!

I think its an art to be able to manipulate words the way you do Foxy. It is for that reason I know you won’t mind me correcting how you delivered the piece about Edwards then girlfriend Sophie who used her “royal connections” to try and bolster her business interests…unfurtunatly the winding up of her company left many out of pocket.

I think you are stretching one’s imagination if you think randy Andy’s title had no influence over the company he kept.

I think you and me are a dwindling bread of people who give but do not expect anything in return, which is more than can be said for Charlie who apparently knew nothing about which knights would have been sitting rounds his 'long table' had the cash-for-knighthood transaction gone through.

With a little bit more reading you will find that Meghan did lots of charity work prior to her involvement with her now Prince Charming and many charities are, I dare say, delighted with their continued support.

[Slapstick]

Hi Sir Merv, what a complete waste of your time writing the above

You’ll have to excuse my ignorance, but what is the point you are making other than what is already public knowledge?

Sorry OL but I for one am certainly not prepared to excuse your ignorance, when you have peppered this forum with your diatribes about your views of the wonderful Harry and Meghan versus the despicable remainder of the Royal family, without a shred of genuine evidence to support your tawdry insinuations.

Unfurtunatly John, while I remain a member of this forum you will either have to grim and bear it or not read it. Likewise, I have the choice to either read or not the disparaging, dare I say nasty remarks you and others have made against lovely Meghan and Harry. Your tawdry accusations are derived from spending to much time listening/reading the headline stories generated by people such as that nasty piece of work Piers Morgan and his equally despicable media colleagues. Whilst I do accept that some mistruths have been aired this, in my opinion has to be set against how Harry and Meghan believe they were treated by the firm, this eventually left them feeling they had no choice but to leave…thank gawd!

The simple fact is that Harry was born into the institution and for the sake of the longevity of the Monarchy you should hope it stays that way.

Love him or hate him Piers Morgan has repeatedly requested Harry provides evidence to back up his accusations, as yet Harry hasn't been able too, nor have the courts.

Morgan has said on record that if the evidence is provided he will give Harry an unreserved public apology, similarly no evidence has ever been produced with reference to racist comments from the King and Kate.

I say this as my opinion only, Prior to meeting Meghan, Harry always seemed to be in a good place, there was no sign of resentment towards his family in fact him and Kate were very close, his resentment clearly started when his relationship with Meghan became more public.

It's quite clear and worrying to see how she clearly controls him, she's the problem.

[Onelife]

I neither love or hate Morgan but would I trust him to tell the truth? Absolutely not.

I think it’s a bit rich of Morgan asking Harry to produce evidence when he himself shyed away from giving evidence at Prince Harrys recent victory against the Mirror group… of which Morgan was editor at that time.

For further reading you may wish to read Ms Kerr recollections (she worked for the Daily Mirror's royal team) about her boss when giving evidence.

With regard to Harry’s accusations against certain members of his family one can only guess as to how true or not they may be but my personal opinion is that much of what he has claimed is true…. whilst accepting that there are inevitably two sides to any story, one which Harry has told and one where the truth remains a “never complain, never explain Royal prerogative.

Many, I guess share your opinion about Meghan, she is undoubtably a strong personality in the relationship but that goes for most relationships, mine being one of them… Squeak! Squeak!

What is also undeniable is that she outshines most, if not all of the Royals when it comes to intellectual conversation/public speaking and if truth be known it is one of the factors as to why the “fab” four became two (I am of course referring to Harry and Meghan, although I do like Kate)

The other part as to why the four became two in my opinion is jealousy…do you remember how popular Harry and Meghan were with the public? There was speculation that they were becoming more popular than Willie and Kate which as we now know isn’t something the firm or Willie would have taken kindly to. You are correct about Harry and Kate being very close, however I’m not so sure Kate and Meghan ever really hit it off…perhaps one of them felt intimidated by the other?

I won’t give reasons now but I feel really sorry for Kate as I see a real sadness behind her smiles.
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Slapstick, as yet you seem to be open to differing opinions so it is with this in mind I will try and explain to you why I have such distain for our monarchy system.

I haven’t always been a republican, indeed there was a time when I along with most of the UK just accepted that the monarchy was part of the very thing that made Great Britain Great.

How wrong I was…

I think I started questioning my attitudes toward the monarchy at about the time of Princess Diana's death…and as time has passed, I feel very strongly that our hereditary Monarchy has no place in what is now a different time and place.

We now live in a multicultural society where we have a myriad of different cultures beliefs and attitudes most of which accept the monarchy but show no allegiance to it…. this isn’t sustainable in the long term, especially so if we have any chance of coming together as a country.

The Monarchy represents many things that a clear-thinking person would recognise, the Monarchy is steeped in sexism which reflets a reluctance to move with the times…just take Princess Ann for instance, how can it be that she falls behind Andrew and Edward in the line of succession…so much for women equal rights?

How can it be right that the king’s coronation cost close to one hundred million while we have people living on handouts.
While other countries have kings and Queens, they don’t splash out on extravagant pantomimes to show how great they are…the money should have been spent on supporting the country in its time of need.

I can think of many aspects of the Monarchy that are not fit for purpose so my only hope is that when my generation of old codgers are pushing up daises the younger generations will question the relevance of having a Monarchy.

Gawd save our country.

[Stephen]

Someone got out the wrong side of the bed today …..God Save The King

[Ray B]

Stephen,

[oldbluefox]

Having gone to the trouble of writing all that I feel somebody should make it worth his while and agree with him. Unfortunately it won't be me........

[barney]

70% approval rating for the King on the very recent poll.
So, there’s the evidence.
The majority are against him

[Slapstick]

I neither love or hate Morgan but would I trust him to tell the truth? Absolutely not.

I think it’s a bit rich of Morgan asking Harry to produce evidence when he himself shyed away from giving evidence at Prince Harrys recent victory against the Mirror group… of which Morgan was editor at that time.

For further reading you may wish to read Ms Kerr recollections (she worked for the Daily Mirror's royal team) about her boss when giving evidence.

With regard to Harry’s accusations against certain members of his family one can only guess as to how true or not they may be but my personal opinion is that much of what he has claimed is true…. whilst accepting that there are inevitably two sides to any story, one which Harry has told and one where the truth remains a “never complain, never explain Royal prerogative.

Many, I guess share your opinion about Meghan, she is undoubtably a strong personality in the relationship but that goes for most relationships, mine being one of them… Squeak! Squeak!

What is also undeniable is that she outshines most, if not all of the Royals when it comes to intellectual conversation/public speaking and if truth be known it is one of the factors as to why the “fab” four became two (I am of course referring to Harry and Meghan, although I do like Kate)

The other part as to why the four became two in my opinion is jealousy…do you remember how popular Harry and Meghan were with the public? There was speculation that they were becoming more popular than Willie and Kate which as we now know isn’t something the firm or Willie would have taken kindly to. You are correct about Harry and Kate being very close, however I’m not so sure Kate and Meghan ever really hit it off…perhaps one of them felt intimidated by the other?

I won’t give reasons now but I feel really sorry for Kate as I see a real sadness behind her smiles.
…

Slapstick, as yet you seem to be open to differing opinions so it is with this in mind I will try and explain to you why I have such distain for our monarchy system.

I haven’t always been a republican, indeed there was a time when I along with most of the UK just accepted that the monarchy was part of the very thing that made Great Britain Great.

How wrong I was…

I think I started questioning my attitudes toward the monarchy at about the time of Princess Diana's death…and as time has passed, I feel very strongly that our hereditary Monarchy has no place in what is now a different time and place.

We now live in a multicultural society where we have a myriad of different cultures beliefs and attitudes most of which accept the monarchy but show no allegiance to it…. this isn’t sustainable in the long term, especially so if we have any chance of coming together as a country.

The Monarchy represents many things that a clear-thinking person would recognise, the Monarchy is steeped in sexism which reflets a reluctance to move with the times…just take Princess Ann for instance, how can it be that she falls behind Andrew and Edward in the line of succession…so much for women equal rights?

How can it be right that the king’s coronation cost close to one hundred million while we have people living on handouts.
While other countries have kings and Queens, they don’t splash out on extravagant pantomimes to show how great they are…the money should have been spent on supporting the country in its time of need.

I can think of many aspects of the Monarchy that are not fit for purpose so my only hope is that when my generation of old codgers are pushing up daises the younger generations will question the relevance of having a Monarchy.

Gawd save our country.

Hi Onelife.

I appreciate all your comments and it's refreshing that we can have a differing opinions without having to resort to personal insults as some forum do.

Without trawling over what's already been said, you mention Diana and in many ways her and Meghan are similar, both I believe were caught in the headlights of what royal title brought them, unfortunately the reality means you have no or very little privacy, Diana not so much at the time, but Meghan without doubt certainly knew what it would be like but was happy to continue and has reaped its rewards before scurrying off back to the states with Harry in tow.

What I did dislike about Charles and Diana's marriage and agree with you to some extent about the Monarchy is that I considered to be a forced marriage, in the defence of Charles I don't think it was a marriage of his choice, he always wanted Camilla, but the Queen wouldn't allow it and the Spencer's went along with it knowing what the additional status the family would get.

Harry has undoubtedly followed in his mother's footsteps by the use of the media, difference being Diana was to some extent tricked by her tell all interview and didn't sell it like Harry.

[Onelife]

70% approval rating for the King on the very recent poll.
So, there’s the evidence.
The majority are against him

Hi Barney, to get a fairer assessment of his approval rating you should have looked further afield than this forum

A survey by the National Centre for Social Research (NatCen) shows public support for the monarchy has fallen to a historic low. A total of 45% of respondents said either it should be abolished, was not at all important or not very important.