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Onelife wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 10:20
The way I see things is that we have allowed ourselves to be governed by laws such as Human Rights and the United Nations convention laws of the sea which are making it nigh impossible to stop the illegal immigrants attempting theses crossings…we need to absolve ourselves from the repercussions of taking a much tougher line, a line whereby we use a short, sharp, this is what happens if you breach our shores illegally. I would advocate a policy of “sea push backs” and direct return flights from where these migrants have fled. This may sound heartless but I don’t think a large percentage of asylum seekers are genuinely fleeing persecution but do so for economic opportunity…. whilst accepting this is a broad statement which will not cover all personal circumstances.
Absolutely OL. Over the years, starting with Blair who wanted to give the Tories a bloody nose and opened the borders to migrants we have literally been giving our country and our culture away. In London recently down Oxford St and Regent St there was no mention of Easter. The decorations were all dedicated to Ramadan. Can you honestly see Easter being the focus of attention in the capital cities of our Muslim countries? In the race to become divergent/multi-cultural we are slowly eroding the British way of life and literally excluding it to the woke brigade.
I believe New Zealand have halted immigration because they are 'full'. We are but a tiny island struggling to meet the needs of the NHS service, education, rail infrastructure, welfare etc but continue to take more and more in who are not contributing but are relying on our welfare services. How much longer can we sustain this model before we wake up and decide we cannot provide for the ills of the rest of the world?
Neither should our own culture be diminished. By all means enjoy the cultures of those who come to these shores but that should not be at the expense of the vagaries of the British way of life. Time to get our priorities sorted, get tough and stand up for ourselves.
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oldbluefox wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 11:46
Onelife wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 10:20
The way I see things is that we have allowed ourselves to be governed by laws such as Human Rights and the United Nations convention laws of the sea which are making it nigh impossible to stop the illegal immigrants attempting theses crossings…we need to absolve ourselves from the repercussions of taking a much tougher line, a line whereby we use a short, sharp, this is what happens if you breach our shores illegally. I would advocate a policy of “sea push backs” and direct return flights from where these migrants have fled. This may sound heartless but I don’t think a large percentage of asylum seekers are genuinely fleeing persecution but do so for economic opportunity…. whilst accepting this is a broad statement which will not cover all personal circumstances.
Absolutely OL. Over the years, starting with Blair who wanted to give the Tories a bloody nose and opened the borders to migrants we have literally been giving our country and our culture away. In London recently down Oxford St and Regent St there was no mention of Easter. The decorations were all dedicated to Ramadan. Can you honestly see Easter being the focus of attention in the capital cities of our Muslim countries? In the race to become divergent/multi-cultural we are slowly eroding the British way of life and literally excluding it to the woke brigade.
I believe New Zealand have halted immigration because they are 'full'. We are but a tiny island struggling to meet the needs of the NHS service, education, rail infrastructure, welfare etc but continue to take more and more in who are not contributing but are relying on our welfare services. How much longer can we sustain this model before we wake up and decide we cannot provide for the ills of the rest of the world?
Neither should our own culture be diminished. By all means enjoy the cultures of those who come to these shores but that should not be at the expense of the vagaries of the British way of life. Time to get our priorities sorted, get tough and stand up for ourselves.
Well said. Now if you two could just stand for election I'll vote for you. (Just so long as there's none of that anti-Monarchist tosh in the manifesto!)

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Absolutely Foxy
But I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen.

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Watching some of the programmes on TV on border controls it is interesting to see how other countries deal with the issues. The Australian border control officers examine documentation and if unsuccessful the migrant is put on the next plane back to whence they came.
By contrast after rejection by the British at border control they are asked if they would like to claim asylum. It's a no brainer so they fill in the form, go on their way and are likely never to be seen again or they can apply over and over again, become a Christian and be admitted years later. Meanwhile the human rights lawyers are making a good living at the expense of the British tax payer who is paying for all of this.
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Stephen wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 11:53
Absolutely Foxy
But I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
No chance. We are weak and lily-livered too busy tying to keep everybody happy. Need to man or even woman up.
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 11:52

Well said. Now if you two could just stand for election I'll vote for you. (Just so long as there's none of that anti-Monarchist tosh in the manifesto!)
OL and I get along great just as long as he keeps taking the tablets and stops spouting that Republican rubbish. :lol: :thumbup: :wave:
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I've started the stopwatch....... :-)

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He'll be busy studying The Racing Post and thinking of a way of lining the bookie's pockets. :D
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Cut out the middle man and just feed it down the drain….or send it to me for safe keeping.
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oldbluefox wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 11:46
I believe New Zealand have halted immigration because they are 'full'.
New Zealand halted immigration years ago unless you had a skill that they need (doctors, nurses), you had dependants living there or you were from one of the countries that they have special arrangements with, such as Australia.

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A trawl around some farms may turn up some.
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Or car washes.
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oldbluefox wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 11:46
Onelife wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 10:20
The way I see things is that we have allowed ourselves to be governed by laws such as Human Rights and the United Nations convention laws of the sea which are making it nigh impossible to stop the illegal immigrants attempting theses crossings…we need to absolve ourselves from the repercussions of taking a much tougher line, a line whereby we use a short, sharp, this is what happens if you breach our shores illegally. I would advocate a policy of “sea push backs” and direct return flights from where these migrants have fled. This may sound heartless but I don’t think a large percentage of asylum seekers are genuinely fleeing persecution but do so for economic opportunity…. whilst accepting this is a broad statement which will not cover all personal circumstances.
Absolutely OL. Over the years, starting with Blair who wanted to give the Tories a bloody nose and opened the borders to migrants we have literally been giving our country and our culture away. In London recently down Oxford St and Regent St there was no mention of Easter. The decorations were all dedicated to Ramadan. Can you honestly see Easter being the focus of attention in the capital cities of our Muslim countries? In the race to become divergent/multi-cultural we are slowly eroding the British way of life and literally excluding it to the woke brigade.
I believe New Zealand have halted immigration because they are 'full'. We are but a tiny island struggling to meet the needs of the NHS service, education, rail infrastructure, welfare etc but continue to take more and more in who are not contributing but are relying on our welfare services. How much longer can we sustain this model before we wake up and decide we cannot provide for the ills of the rest of the world?
Neither should our own culture be diminished. By all means enjoy the cultures of those who come to these shores but that should not be at the expense of the vagaries of the British way of life. Time to get our priorities sorted, get tough and stand up for ourselves.

Hi Foxy, I applaud your post because you have dared to say (more precisely than what I did) what those who could do something about it haven’t dared to do. We are heading down a path where there are no exits, just more of the same, and it can only get worse. The expansion of other cultures, along with their ideologies are taking over vast areas of our towns and cities, with some of them becoming no-go areas for different cultural identities…there are some areas in Birmingham that I wouldn’t venture into during the daylight hours let alone night time, however, if there is a way back from this indigenous cultural disaster it will only happen if we accept that we now live in a multicultural society, one where all cultures accept a governance that promotes the cultural heritage and values of the country in which they/we are privileged to live. We need a government/leader who is prepared to say, "enough is enough" and do something about redressing the imbalance of cultural preference to that of a country that strives for the same values and goals.

I’ll be emigrating at the first opportunity. :thumbup:
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Onelife wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 14:52
Hi Foxy, I applaud your post because you have dared to say (more precisely than what I did) what those who could do something about it haven’t dared to do. We are heading down a path where there are no exits, just more of the same, and it can only get worse. The expansion of other cultures, along with their ideologies are taking over vast areas of our towns and cities, with some of them becoming no-go areas for different cultural identities…there are some areas in Birmingham that I wouldn’t venture into during the daylight hours let alone night time, however, if there is a way back from this indigenous cultural disaster it will only happen if we accept that we now live in a multicultural society, one where all cultures accept a governance that promotes the cultural heritage and values of the country in which they/we are privileged to live. We need a government/leader who is prepared to say, "enough is enough" and do something about redressing the imbalance of cultural preference to that of a country that strives for the same values and goals.

I’ll be emigrating at the first opportunity. :thumbup:
France have tried to stop the encroachment of Islamic dress rules into schools and the workplace. Unfortunately that seems to have made them the number one target for terrorist attacks in Europe. So not certain we should follow that particular route.
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It doesn’t matter if they can’t outfight us,they’ll just outbreed us, job done.!
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 11:59
I've started the stopwatch....... :-)
Hi Sir Merv, I’ve decided to take a back seat where Royal shenanigans are concerned, but it’s nice to see Charlie back putting in a hard day’s work shaking hands. I also hear Camilla is recovering well after attending a few Royal engagements…the poor women deserve another paid holiday. I was sad to hear Willy is still needing a reduced work schedule due to the emotional stress he is putting himself through looking after his dear Catherine.

As always, I send them my best wishes until such time that it is all over and done with.

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towny44 wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 15:33
Onelife wrote: 30 Apr 2024, 14:52
Hi Foxy, I applaud your post because you have dared to say (more precisely than what I did) what those who could do something about it haven’t dared to do. We are heading down a path where there are no exits, just more of the same, and it can only get worse. The expansion of other cultures, along with their ideologies are taking over vast areas of our towns and cities, with some of them becoming no-go areas for different cultural identities…there are some areas in Birmingham that I wouldn’t venture into during the daylight hours let alone night time, however, if there is a way back from this indigenous cultural disaster it will only happen if we accept that we now live in a multicultural society, one where all cultures accept a governance that promotes the cultural heritage and values of the country in which they/we are privileged to live. We need a government/leader who is prepared to say, "enough is enough" and do something about redressing the imbalance of cultural preference to that of a country that strives for the same values and goals.

I’ll be emigrating at the first opportunity. :thumbup:
France have tried to stop the encroachment of Islamic dress rules into schools and the workplace. Unfortunately that seems to have made them the number one target for terrorist attacks in Europe. So not certain we should follow that particular route.
I think France are setting a fine example in banning certain garments that contravene school dress codes, and we, in my opinion, should do the same. I’m sick to the back teeth hearing about how schools and the wider communities are pushed into relaxing, changing or scraping certain things in order to appease individual religious doctrines/groups.

When we start running for the fear of what could happen, then you know the reality is that something needs to be done.
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There you go, talking sense again. It's very worrying.

And don't worry, the Royals will see you out. 😉

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Anyone else seen on the news the student protests in America?

I find it somewhat amusing that the students are wearing face masks and wondering if these are the same ones who a couple of years ago were protesting about having to wear a face mask.

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What amused me today was Trump. Gets fined for contempt of court for mouthing off about the case. And is warned that if he does it again he could be jailed. So what does he do the moment he's out of court? Starts slagging off the judge. Lock him up. Throw away the key.

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Quite interesting that a migrant volunteered to be deported and received £3000 as well. Apparently he was not the first one. I have no idea if it's cheaper this way or using force to deport a migrant. I wonder if he gets better service on his travel than on government airlines.
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Personally speaking, I would just give them a pre-packed lunch to eat on the next available outbound journey…most have travelled here illegally and have travelled though several European countries to get here…. this doesn’t strike me of desperation, its more about our give away benefits system…free accommodation, free health care and a daily allowance is what makes the UK the destination of choice.
I’m not without sympathy for genuine asylum seekers but there doesn’t appear to a distinguishing factor between those crossing by boats, this is why the Government is right to give them a choice e.g. a free flight from whence they came, a new life in Rwanda, or the option to just stop coming, Imo.

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I feel very sorry for the man reported in the media today who lost his young daughter in the recent crush. He says he had no choice but to get on that boat. But he's lived in Europe for 14 years. He has applied for asylum repeatedly and been turned down because his home is judged safe by the EU. Sadly this feels like a case of if Mummy says no ask Daddy.

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A new bread is being developed to make a healthier white loaf that has the nutrition as Brown bread. Made from things as quinoa, teff, sorghum and millet. Green peas and chickpeas with the bran lost in milling being added. Will it be the same as today's white bread which contain a shed full of additives ?
It should taste like ordinary cotton wool white bread and should be available in two years.
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Mervyn and Trish wrote: 01 May 2024, 17:16
I feel very sorry for the man reported in the media today who lost his young daughter in the recent crush. He says he had no choice but to get on that boat. But he's lived in Europe for 14 years. He has applied for asylum repeatedly and been turned down because his home is judged safe by the EU. Sadly this feels like a case of if Mummy says no ask Daddy.
It is indeed very sad that a young life has been snuffed out this way…I wonder if he’ll attempt a 5th crossing with his remaining two children?

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