Jacob Rees-Mogg

[Silver_Shiney]

It looks like something from a Ripley's Believe it or not place!

So THAT'S the name of your tat emporium!

[HK phooey]

This thread is about a chinless wonder that made a boo boo, stop hijacking it shiny or I'll be issuing a warning.

[Silver_Shiney]

This thread is about a chinless wonder that made a boo boo, stop hijacking it shiny or I'll be issuing a warning.

Is that a threat or a promise, dear heart?

The thread is, indeed, about a chinless wonder. 20-20 hindsight is a wonderful thing but, give him credit, he's expressed regret at his unwise decision to speak at this odious group.

[oldbluefox]

Chesterfield John said, ' I know most of this board are Tories'.

Rather astute. Not sure how you know that. Do you do racing tips as well John?

Let's face it these characters from all political parties don't have a clue what goes on in the real world. This is almost as good as Gordon Brown's 'bigot' faux-pas.

[Silver_Shiney]

Chesterfield John said, ' I know most of this board are Tories'.

Rather astute. Not sure how you know that. Do you do racing tips as well John?

Let's face it these characters from all political parties don't have a clue what goes on in the real world. This is almost as good as Gordon Brown's 'bigot' faux-pas.

Indeed.

A few rather unwise, unsubstantiated comments on this thread. I wouldn't know, from reading the posts of the majority, what their political persuasion was. There are one or two exceptions, who would make Attila the Hun look like a hard-line communist.....

Let's face it, there are three main-stream political parties (four if you include the Lib-Dems), all of which have some decent, honourable men and women in their upper echelons. They all have people who put their foot in it. Unfortunately, the real power-mongers in whichever party you look at, are tainted in one way or another.

[Dark Knight]

would the OP gone to as much trouble for his beloved labour party
digging around the internet just to have a pop at the tories, how inane
this thread should be deleted as it is a pathetic attempt to cause trouble nothing more

[Silver_Shiney]

True, DK, but it's called Freedom of Speech and good men died to allow all to have it as a right

[Dark Knight]

SS
it is an attempt to cause trouble...nothing more and under the rules of this forum should be deleted

there are many on here who have posts and or comments deleted for much less than this childish attempt to cause trouble

[Silver_Shiney]

In which case, DK, I'll bow out of this one, as I did with the thread on Overseas Aid, in case I write something I might regret in response to some of the silly comments I've seen

[HK phooey]

What a load of claptrap. CJ has every right to post this in the general chat section. There's enough unnecessary deleting goes on already without people calling for more!

[Delboy]

I think if CJ or anybody else thinks The MM votes Tory, they are barking up the wrong tree, because if my memory serves me right, from posts he made on the old P&O forum, he did not at the last election. Although again if my memory serves me right he was happy with a coalition result.

This thread I notice has gone the same way as most political threads, whichever side of the debate you are on, there will always be those who cannot post an apposing point of view, without resorting to mockery or sarcasm.

[oldbluefox]

Delboy - 'This thread I notice has gone the same way as most political threads, whichever side of the debate you are on, there will always be those who cannot post an apposing point of view, without resorting to mockery or sarcasm. '

It is a pity Delboy but you are correct.

There is no way anybody knows how others may vote. However it would be churlish to believe that the ability to drop clangers is the sole domain of one particular party. My own experience of many politicians is their complete detachment from reality and whenever they are dragged away from their beloved London they can't wait to get back.

I have just returned from a week in London and was staggered by the wealth and the investment which is going into the City. Maybe our politicians would be more credible if that wealth was to be shared more equitably around the country so that we as a country could grow instead of focusing on one particular area. Unfortunately whilst we have the likes of Lord Howell and Jacob Rees-Mogg in positions of influence there appears to be little chance of that happening. Needless to say I have little faith in any of them. My own (Labour) MP has just received a knighthood for his work in ................ Africa. Meanwhile the west coast of Cumbria suffers from high unemployment, poor infrastructure and lack of investment and has done ever since the steel works and the mines closed down. Successive Tory and Labour governments have done little to resolve the problem although no doubt when elections come around we will all be getting the same (unfulfilled) promises.

[Mo2013]

It is a shame when people feel they have to abandon a thread but hey ho, that's life. If there is nothing more to say then that's that. I think that the secret is to accept other views whilst keeping one's integrity but I do believe that politics has no place on a cruising website. I find it frustrating when people make judgements without reading, or knowing, all the facts. But there will always be those who will stick to what they believe, even in the face of contrary facts and opinions.

[oldbluefox]

Even after reading, and knowing all the facts people will still have an opinion. There are wrong answers but different ways of achieving the right answers. The problem only arises when people think theirs is the only answer and are disrespectful towards everybody else's opinion.

[Delboy]

But there will always be those who will stick to what they believe, even in the face of contrary facts and opinions.

For once I am in agreement, but then you also get those who only seem interested in distorting the facts and opinions, so it ties in with what they want to believe.

[ChesterfieldJohn]

would the OP gone to as much trouble for his beloved labour party
digging around the internet just to have a pop at the tories, how inane
this thread should be deleted as it is a pathetic attempt to cause trouble nothing more

Thank you Mr Moderator!!

Next time I will run my posts before you so that I can get permission off you.

Must not do anything that YOU don't like must we.

The post was made in a light hearted way to see if it got as much response as the UKIP one.

You and trouble seem to be associated.

John

[ChesterfieldJohn]

[quote="Dark Knight"]SS

Oh and once again your assumptions are wrong, I am not a Labour supporter.



John

[emjay45]

Goodness me. How self righteous we all are. I can’t believe how annoyed people get when others don’t agree with them. We ALL have different opinions and we are ALL entitled to them. We can ALL read facts and figures and we can ALL reach a different opinion. No ONE person on here is RIGHT.

[Romig1]

[quote="emjay45"]Goodness me. How self righteous we all are. I can’t believe how annoyed people get when others don’t agree with them. We ALL have different opinions and we are ALL entitled to them. We can ALL read facts and figures and we can ALL reach a different opinion. [color=#FF4000]No ONE person on here is ... e][/color]

...erm ...... I think you'll find that I am always right.

[oldbluefox]

Wina's obviously not around then.

[The Monocled Mutineer]

I think if CJ or anybody else thinks The MM votes Tory, they are barking up the wrong tree, because if my memory serves me right, from posts he made on the old P&O forum, he did not at the last election. Although again if my memory serves me right he was happy with a coalition result.

This thread I notice has gone the same way as most political threads, whichever side of the debate you are on, there will always be those who cannot post an apposing point of view, without resorting to mockery or sarcasm.

Indeed, and not only at the last General Election, but all elections (local, national and European) have I ever voted Conservative. No way.

This is because I have always believed in major electoral and constitutional reform, a rebalancing of national governments to a more balanced federal system, an elected House of Lords and closer integration of the UK with the European Union and reform of the European Union with full democratic accountability.

I believe the result of the GE 2010 produced probably the best result for our nation and, despite the very arbitrary results that can be produced by the FPTP system, one hopes that the present balance of MPs will be returned to give the coalition at least a second term of five years.

I recall in 2010 many cynics predicting that the Coalition would implode in a few months. Well here we are three years and three months into the course of this government and there is much to be pleased about and confidence is rising.

[Kendhni]

I believe the result of the GE 2010 produced probably the best result for our nation and, despite the very arbitrary results that can be produced by the FPTP system, one hopes that the present balance of MPs will be returned to give the coalition at least a second term of five years.

I was concerned to start with, but given the alternatives, Labour, Lib-Lab coalition or a Conservative government I am inclined to agree. There is an awful lot of moaning and complaining going on which has meant that the coalition government has not been able to take the steps it knows are necessary due to public backlash, all that is doing is extending this recession out for longer than it needs to be. And people seem to have forgotten that we were days/weeks away from having similar measures imposed upon us as the Greeks/Ireland/Spanish etc. have had to endure ... that would really have given the moaners something to think about.

All the sound bites coming out from Labour show just how dishonest they are to the public (but yet the gullible still fall for their rhetoric). More-and-more it appears that despite their public comments they would have taken similar, if not stronger measures than the coalition government, and will reverse very little that has been put in place. However we still need to see Millibrain come up with any policies and put them on the table (maybe they will soon .. and people will see they are no different).

We have not gone back into the dark ages with our standard of living .. by all estimates it may have fallen back a decade to those dark and poverty stricken times of the early/mid noughties boom ... which means we have got through this recession far better than many other countries.

On another board I saw a wonderful phrase which I think is very apt when describing the monotonous and predictable moaning from the left ... "left whingers" ... very apt.

[emjay45]

Goodness me. How self righteous we all are. I can’t believe how annoyed people get when others don’t agree with them. We ALL have different opinions and we are ALL entitled to them. We can ALL read facts and figures and we can ALL reach a different opinion. [color=#FF4000]No ONE person on here is ... e][/color]

...erm ...... I think you'll find that I am always right.

Well of course you are. We see you so rarely these days I'd almost forgotten

[lioness]

I think Rees-Mogg made a mistake, but he said so and probably won't make that mistake again.

God help us if we get Labour back in. I think this coalition has made the most of what they can and can't do. The economy looks like it is slowly mending. Can anyone imagine having Ed Milliband in charge?

[Mo2013]

I think the topic has no less merit than other topics that are posted on any number of subjects, and it is a shame that it was not embraced as other threads are embraced. A faux pas is unfortunate no matter which politician has made it and it's a shame that the thread has gone from discussing the faux pas to point scoring both of a personal nature and against the political party you do not support.